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Ted_Feasel
09-27-2020, 09:20 AM
Here is the original post fellas.....One statement that stands out is; "but is there
a barrel maker that clearly stands above the rest ??

My answer would be to say "NO" at this point in time. It's a group of barrel makers
that share the top. Pick your poison, and drive it.I.would have to agree with that. Ive only use shilen and criterion and have not had the money to try any others but I have seen the results of many others and seen equipment lists of top shooters.

On a unrelated note does anyone have quick load and would be willing to run some numbers?

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jkv45
09-27-2020, 09:47 AM
Look, it just got real because the Interwebz Spelling & Grammar Police done shown up! THAT, my friends, is the legit sign of reality...realness...realimication.. UH OH!
Well, if you write in incomplete sentences without punctuation and correct spelling, then complain that people can't read what you wrote - that could be the problem.

celltech
09-27-2020, 09:49 AM
On a unrelated note does anyone have quick load and would be willing to run some numbers?


What are you looking to model?

Ted_Feasel
09-27-2020, 09:52 AM
What are you looking to model?I have a ar10 20" criterion hbar profile 416r stainless and 500 168gr speer match pills. I hoping to get a idea what range I 'may" find my accuracy load

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Ted_Feasel
09-27-2020, 09:55 AM
What are you looking to model?Forgot to mention its a 308, I have varget, rl15, shooterworld precision rife and w748 to work with

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celltech
09-27-2020, 11:14 AM
I have a ar10 20" criterion hbar profile 416r stainless and 500 168gr speer match pills. I hoping to get a idea what range I 'may" find my accuracy load

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Yeah...I never really figured out that OBT stuff. I just use it as a starting point to my upper limits.

Ted_Feasel
09-27-2020, 11:17 AM
Yeah...I never really figured out that OBT stuff. I just use it as a starting point to my upper limits.Thats really all I'm wanting is to get close so I don't have to start from the beginning. I already have load dev for 175gr smk but a buddy of mine got rid of his 308 and gave me over 500 same lot speer bthp match pills so I figured I may as well use them.. heck they were free [emoji16]

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mikeinco
09-27-2020, 04:11 PM
just a note. the 168 smk is a 300 meter bullet with a known bad issue at long range. you need to look at the boat tail on these bullets and decide if you are going to shoot past 400.
i shoot 175 and 185 for 308 out to 800.

Thats really all I'm wanting is to get close so I don't have to start from the beginning. I already have load dev for 175gr smk but a buddy of mine got rid of his 308 and gave me over 500 same lot speer bthp match pills so I figured I may as well use them.. heck they were free [emoji16]

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mikeinco
09-27-2020, 04:14 PM
everyone has an OPINION, but facts are based on data......you got none.
again the question is
"who makes the very best quality premium barrels currently"
VERY BEST not ok nor so so.

I.would have to agree with that. Ive only use shilen and criterion and have not had the money to try any others but I have seen the results of many others and seen equipment lists of top shooters.

On a unrelated note does anyone have quick load and would be willing to run some numbers?

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Ted_Feasel
09-27-2020, 04:15 PM
just a note. the 168 smk is a 300 meter bullet with a known bad issue at long range. you need to look at the boat tail on these bullets and decide if you are going to shoot past 400.
i shoot 175 and 185 for 308 out to 800.Sorry if I said smk on the 168, its speer bthp match

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charlie b
09-27-2020, 05:04 PM
just a note. the 168 smk is a 300 meter bullet with a known bad issue at long range. you need to look at the boat tail on these bullets and decide if you are going to shoot past 400.
i shoot 175 and 185 for 308 out to 800.

For some reason I thought Sierra changed the BT on those a few years ago.

Ted_Feasel
09-27-2020, 05:14 PM
For some reason I thought Sierra changed the BT on those a few years ago.I know I've heard bad things about the 168 smk but that was my mistake the 168s my friend gave me are speer match. He swore by them and they were free so I figured ,"why not" lolhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200927/d8e7856ea2bc133cf2f64db7bac5fd26.jpg

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mikeinco
09-27-2020, 06:29 PM
i was just commenting on "not all 168's are great bullets"...see if you can find a spec on the boat tail.
again great at 1-300..then they fall off past 500.
so someone may tall you a bullet is great, BUT AT WHAT DISTANCE?

charlie b
09-27-2020, 09:15 PM
Mike, So what is a good spec on a .30 cal boattail? I've had some good luck with the 168AMax out to 1000, same with the 155ELDmatch.

mikeinco
09-27-2020, 10:06 PM
both of those are new enough to no be an issue.
the smk 168 was designed for short range and had(has?) the wrong shape for long range stability.

Mike, So what is a good spec on a .30 cal boattail? I've had some good luck with the 168AMax out to 1000, same with the 155ELDmatch.

Ted_Feasel
09-28-2020, 08:27 AM
The 200 gr smk and 220gr ATIP are supposed to be having great results at 1k and beyond.. I have a box of the ATIPS but have not tried them yet



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mikeinco
09-28-2020, 11:53 AM
ya need to start another thread in reloading.


The 200 gr smk and 220gr ATIP are supposed to be having great results at 1k and beyond.. I have a box of the ATIPS but have not tried them yet



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Ted_Feasel
09-28-2020, 12:23 PM
ya need to start another thread in reloading.Sorry, i was responding to someone's post, my bad

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09-28-2020, 03:04 PM
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