unscrewing a bbl

[mikeinco]

only if it WORKS
in my case it never WORKED.
I BUILD RIFLES but i am new to savage.
it you check the articles section there is a bbl vice review...it happens to be the one i use.

i already had a couple of internal action wrenches, a couple of external action wrenches and a great bbl vice.
i just needed savage tools.....
(if you are talking about short loading port wrenches..i agree not for factory dis-assemnly)
look at REAR ENTRY wrench, vs PORT ENTRY wrench


Brownells currently only sells the Davidson action wrench for Savage, they are $84, you still need a barrel vise, and Davidson says it's not designed for removing factory installed barrels.



IMHO, for the casual user who isn't frequently switching barrels, but is breaking down factory installed barrels, the barrel vise and barrel nut wrench seem to be the most economical solution.

[PhilC]

It's not a port wrench, it's a rear entry wrench as you describe 749-005-813WB Davidson Rear Entry Action Wrench -Stolle Savage (https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/wrenches/action-wrenches-prod36311.aspx)

Here's the full description from Brownells for the Davidson rear action wrenches...


Davidson Action Wrenches are designed for the switch barrel shooter with a custom built rifle. Manufactured from 7075-T6 aluminum, these tools are not designed to remove factory installed barrels. Action wrenches are used to break the action free from the barrel while the barrel is held in a barrel vise. This allows the shooter to change barrels in a matter of a few minutes. All rear action wrenches are inserted through the rear of the action and have a 3/4 inch hex end which requires a wrench for turning. Port wrenches are inserted through the action port and are turned by hand. Barrel Vise available separately.

I read the barrel vise article a few weeks ago.

And I should add, not here to argue about the tool you're recommending. Brownells may have had a different one in the past, but the only Savage rear entry action wrench they sell today is not meant for breaking down factory installed barrels, which from reading a lot of posts here over the past couple years, is what I read most people here are doing.

OTM Tactical has a hardened SS rear entry action wrench in stock for $40 that may, or may not, work with factory installed barrels. Someone interested in one can chase that down.

[mikeinco]

my davidson rear entry wrenches are STEEL...DO THEY MAKE TWO TYPES ?

[mikeinco]

my davidson rear entry wrenches are STEEL...DO THEY MAKE TWO TYPES ?

and you appear to be confused
THERE IS NO MATERIAL LISTED for the rear action wrenches.
and while there is a "answer" that says no to factory removal,
it is not from davidsons...and it is wrong

[PhilC]

my davidson rear entry wrenches are STEEL...DO THEY MAKE TWO TYPES ?

and you appear to be confused
Not at all.


THERE IS NO MATERIAL LISTED for the rear action wrenches.
and while there is a "answer" that says no to factory removal,
it is not from davidsons...and it is wrong
There most certainly is, and I've quoted it twice, whether you want to accept it, or not, I don't care.

The description for the Davidson rear entry action wrenches currently sold by Brownells clearly states they are manufactured from 7075-T6 aluminum (that's the "material") and are not meant for breaking down factory installed barrels.

[mikeinco]

lets start all over.
how many davidson rear entry action wrenches do you own ??
??????????????????

i own 2, one each of the current styles.

here is what happens when you do not KNOW but read (poor) info off the internet.

i just got off the phone with brownells.
THEY ADMIT THE DESCRIPTION IS WRONG.
they will get it fixed

port action wrenches are alum and not for removing factory bbls from factory actions;
rear entry wrenches are STEEL and can be used to remove FACTORY bbls from FACTORY actions.

you have a nice day




Not at all.


There most certainly is, and I've quoted it twice, whether you want to accept it, or not, I don't care.

The description for the Davidson rear entry action wrenches currently sold by Brownells clearly states they are manufactured from 7075-T6 aluminum (that's the "material") and are not meant for breaking down factory installed barrels.

[Dave Hoback]

I’ve never been a fan of the internal action wrenches. Just something about using a hardened steel tool to “pry” against the inner action walls. Prying this space that I want to stay all “precision’ny” :biggrin-new: LOL. Just has always made me cringe. Just me...I know they work very well for many, many people. Luckily, I’ve always had the gift of not caring about minor finish wear or scratches. It still cracks me up watching people go full on snowflake over a scratch! HAHAHA! Nope, I’m quite fond of the big-ol honkin’ external action wrench.

Like I said before, the way that works for YOU... is the CORRECT way!

[mikeinco]

they are MACHINED to FIT the bolt head way/groove/slot.
being FULL LENGTH there is no "pry", it is trying to ROTATE the entire action all at once.
no twisting. steel, solid steel.
like an allen wrench in an allen head machine screw...it fits and they rotate.
but as you say what ever works for you.
gunsmiths tend to use the internal wrench over the external.;
more like a tool, than a clamp and pry bar.
( as far as "precision’ny" essentially all benchrest rifles/custom action rifles are put together with an internal wrench)


I’ve never been a fan of the internal action wrenches. Just something about using a hardened steel tool to “pry” against the inner action walls. Prying this space that I want to stay all “precision’ny” :biggrin-new: LOL. Just has always made me cringe. Just me...I know they work very well for many, many people. Luckily, I’ve always had the gift of not caring about minor finish wear or scratches. It still cracks me up watching people go full on snowflake over a scratch! HAHAHA! Nope, I’m quite fond of the big-ol honkin’ external action wrench.

Like I said before, the way that works for YOU... is the CORRECT way!

[Dave Hoback]

Yes Mike...I’m very familiar with the principle behind it. Thank you. Merely a preference of mine.

[PhilC]

lets start all over.
how many davidson rear entry action wrenches do you own ??
??????????????????

i own 2, one each of the current styles.

here is what happens when you do not KNOW but read (poor) info off the internet.

i just got off the phone with brownells.
THEY ADMIT THE DESCRIPTION IS WRONG.
they will get it fixed

port action wrenches are alum and not for removing factory bbls from factory actions;
rear entry wrenches are STEEL and can be used to remove FACTORY bbls from FACTORY actions.

you have a nice day
You're right I did not "know" but you seemed to be "in the know" and recommended a source (Brownells), so I go to source which I consider a reputable company, and their description says aluminum not steel which you then dispute. I was actually considering one, but after all this, I'll stick with a barrel vise and barrel nut wrench as my Savages are neither bench rest nor custom action rifles. Thank you very much.

[Dave Hoback]

You're right I did not "know" but you seemed to be "in the know" and recommended a source (Brownells), so I go to source which I consider a reputable company, and their description says aluminum not steel which you then dispute. I was actually considering one, but after all this, I'll stick with a barrel vise and barrel nut wrench as my Savages are neither bench rest nor custom action rifles. Thank you very much.

Not your fault Phil. You are absolutely correct! Brownells is a trusted vendor. They absolutely should have the correct information! Don’t worry brother...I DO have a custom built, bench rifle, and I didn’t use one of these either!

[mikeinco]

"YEAH but
my custom built rifle will out shoot your custom built rifle,
because i used a rear entry wrench to assemble mine!"

lol...could not resist...moving on

lol
Not your fault Phil. You are absolutely correct! Brownells is a trusted vendor. They absolutely should have the correct information! Don’t worry brother...I DO have a custom built, bench rifle, and I didn’t use one of these either!

[Dave Hoback]

Pretty good.... Pretty good Mike. LOL:nevreness: