darkker
04-20-2019, 09:01 AM
Roger that.... I'm not up to snuff on Colorado law, so don't know about the legality of the phone or radio. That guy either used the 143 ELD-X or the 147 ELD-M (not sure which though). I was with you on the 6.5 Creedmoor, 260 Remington, 6.5 PRC being capable on Elk, but those results just didn't sit well with me... Especially, after I shot a 5 pt. bull with a 168 Barnes TTSX (2800 FPS)out of my 30-06 from 150 yards right through the heart, and he still ran 250-300 yards before he went down.
... I know the ballistics for the 6.5 says it will absolutely carry enough energy to kill Elk,...
If you want to make them reliably drop and never move, hit the CNS, or spinal structure. Heart and lung shots don't de-oxygenate the blood stream instantly, and doesn't kill brain function like a light switch.
Also, in the context of hunting, forget the word "energy".
"Energy" is a theoretical number assigned by technical calculations, and idiots who write for gun magazines; and trashbags on social media who can't hold better than a 12" group at 280 yards, directed at the non-vital organ end of the animal. :mad:
Reliable bullet upset and expansion is directly driven by velocity, not energy and not the Easter Bunny. When tipped bullets splash on game, it isn't because they have to much evergy. It's because the velocity is to high for how lightly constructed they are, PERIOD.
When I was still in Idaho, and lived off deer and elk meat. Even drew a moose tag, and I didn't have mules or horses to pack out anything, just my Chevro-legs.
A very sedately loaded 260, firing 140gr Hot-Cor bullets only takes 1 properly placed shot to kill all of those animals.
... I know the ballistics for the 6.5 says it will absolutely carry enough energy to kill Elk,...
If you want to make them reliably drop and never move, hit the CNS, or spinal structure. Heart and lung shots don't de-oxygenate the blood stream instantly, and doesn't kill brain function like a light switch.
Also, in the context of hunting, forget the word "energy".
"Energy" is a theoretical number assigned by technical calculations, and idiots who write for gun magazines; and trashbags on social media who can't hold better than a 12" group at 280 yards, directed at the non-vital organ end of the animal. :mad:
Reliable bullet upset and expansion is directly driven by velocity, not energy and not the Easter Bunny. When tipped bullets splash on game, it isn't because they have to much evergy. It's because the velocity is to high for how lightly constructed they are, PERIOD.
When I was still in Idaho, and lived off deer and elk meat. Even drew a moose tag, and I didn't have mules or horses to pack out anything, just my Chevro-legs.
A very sedately loaded 260, firing 140gr Hot-Cor bullets only takes 1 properly placed shot to kill all of those animals.