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LoneWolf
12-28-2018, 08:52 AM
Came across an interesting opinion today. Sierra asked some handloaders including the staff, what their favorite reloading tool was.

One answer was from Sierra Bullets Chief Ballistician Tommy Todd. He answered: “A brass annealing machine and a RCBS Chargemaster complimented with a Sartorious scale (https://sartorius.balances.com/).”

Dan Blake answered: “My Annealing Made Perfect (AMP) annealer (https://www.ampannealing.com/). With consistent neck tension being one of the largest contributions to small Extreme Spread on muzzle velocities,...


Craig Arnzen answered: “My Annealeez (http://www.annealeez.com/) [annealing machine] is one of the best tools in my reloading room. Neck tension is SO important, and annealing every firing really helps with that. This is an inexpensive tool that can anneal a lot of cases at once, and help me produce more consistent ammo.”

I work with those guys from Area 419. Speak with them on a weekly basis. I agree with them. Make my job at the bench and success down range easier.

yobuck
12-28-2018, 10:24 AM
Well I don't think it's a question of agreeing, or disagreeing as to wether it can improve neck tension, which can also improve accuracy.
Sierra also has a very elaborite controlled environment facility in the basement including a range of several hundred yards.
Also numerous barreled actions in many chamberings they set up to test ammo. It's a necessary part of their business.
And yes, some of their people also compete and hunt.
Bruce Baer dosent like his Chargemaster. He claims it's not accurate on the large volume charges. Like the ones that ruin cases after about 3 shots. lol

Robinhood
12-28-2018, 12:15 PM
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Bruce Baer dosent like his Chargemaster. He claims it's not accurate on the large volume charges. Like the ones that ruin cases after about 3 shots. lol

The Chargmaster is used to throw light charges for the beam scale to trickle in.

eddiesindian
01-02-2019, 10:43 PM
I started annealing a few years back. After realizing the benefits 1st hand I wish I would have started annealing a long time ago.

yobuck
01-03-2019, 08:01 AM
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The Chargmaster is used to throw light charges for the beam scale to trickle in.
Got that one on cast #416, after a switch to a live minnow. lol
Hey im headin out today, hope I can find a parkin spot what with all the (pros) down here.
For sure ill have minneys along, the Specks luv em.

bigedp51
01-04-2019, 09:53 AM
Hunters will rarely use their brass enough to make brass harden and then will buy new brass.

I'm 68 and have been reloading for over 47 years and I do not anneal or shoot in competition.

Two weeks ago I went to resize some well used Federal 30-30 cases I bought in 1982 and the necks started to crack. :frusty:

The average deer in Pennsylvania is shot at 40 yards and when you are standing on your hind legs shooting at a running deer neck tension is the last thing on your mind.

I also prefer to go to the range when no one else is there, that way when I leave the range I know I was the best shot that day. :first:

And at the Whidden die website they sell expander kits with five expanders from bullet diameter to .004 under bullet diameter, to control neck tension.

I do not need the Whidden expander kit for my 30-30 because after the necks crack on my 37 year old 30-30 cases I just buy new brass. :smile-new:

The last time I shot at a deer it was going full warp speed across a open field at over 100 yards.

All the bullets kicked up dirt behind the running deer so I guess the hard brass in my case necks gripped the bullet too tight and slowed them down. :sorrow: