Savage To Stop Making Short Action Models?

[Texas10]

Someone on another forum opined that Savage was planning on ceasing production on short action models, and only making long action models.

For the forum Boss or anyone else, any rumors you'd care to deny or confirm?

[big honkin jeep]

double post

[big honkin jeep]

They'll still be making short actions but they did change their model number designations. Pretty much anything based on the 110 action be it long action or short action will be a "110" regardless of action length.

Of course with the crazy stuff they've been doing over the last few years, they'll probably make a liar out of me soon enough.

[zloe]

That was my understanding as well. Just as the savages from 60 years ago could be found in short and long actions but we're called 110.personally, I don't understand the change.

[Robinhood]

That was my understanding as well. Just as the savages from 60 years ago could be found in short and long actions but we're called 110.personally, I don't understand the change.

Check that data. You will find something different is true.

[zloe]

Check that data. You will find something different is true.
What part?
Thanks.

I was basing my post on the following information and my personal experience which has found the info to be accurate.

http://www.savageshooters.com/content.php?128-Savage-Action-Lengths

[Robinhood]

You know, I forgot about those 1st generation going back that far. Crow taste very similar to open range chicken.

[zloe]

Ha Ha. Well, technically I should have said 59 years.

[red caddy 51]

OK, feed the newbie. Long actions will still have 3 digits in the model number, but short actions will too? Last I knew, 10,12 16, etc. were short actions, 110, 112, 116 etc. were long actions. Other than the obvious length difference, and mounting hole spacing, how are we supposed to tell the difference for parts ordering and such?

Thanks, a relative newbie, RED

[foxx]

^^^^Good question. Ask Savage. Stupidity at it's worst.

[GaCop]

Now that Savage is owned by "bean counters", has the quality suffered like Marlin did? It's been a while since I bought a new Savage.

[JASmith]

Is there a possibility that Savage wants to use 2-digit identifiers forntheir MSR series? If so, it seems they could have found a less confusing approach so that classic boltgunners not have to check a lot of detail before being sure they are looking at short or long action rifles.

[LoneWolf]

I don't think Savage will ever get away from making changes to how they identify their actions or how they design them. That is why aftermarket support is so difficult when it comes to Savage actions. round back, flat back, top safety, bottom safety, 4.2", 4.4", accu-trigger, non-accu trigger, LA, SA,... There's so many things to consider you have to be or find a subject matter expert in models just to select a compatible part.

My understanding is that all part numbers will be based on the 3 digit "110" identifier, but SA or LA will be identified by models. I'll try to find the post Jim made about this a few weeks back.

[foxx]

Now that Savage is owned by "bean counters", has the quality suffered like Marlin did? It's been a while since I bought a new Savage.

No.

I don't care for some of their design changes (bottom bolt release, smooth nut, etc.), but they are actually better quality, as far as I am concerned.

[J.Baker]

3 digits for all the NEW 110 models - long or short. It's no different than it was in the beginning, or any different than the Winchester Model 70 or Remington Model 700 not having different model #'s for short and long actions. Action length is dictated purely by the cartridge the rifle is chambered in as it should be.

The only way Savage will ever get themselves out of this cluster-phudge would be to come out with a completely different action with it's own unique screw spacing and such, give it a completely different model number, and totally abandon everything they've done before as far as model designations goes. It could still have the basic design features of the 110 (floating bolt head, barrel nut, etc), but it would have to be sufficiently unique in that there would be no parts compatibility with the old models.

Of course that would open up a new can of worms as the aftermarket would take forever to develop products for the new model out of fear Savage would change things yet again.

[LoneWolf]

3 digits for all the NEW 110 models - long or short. It's no different than it was in the beginning, or any different than the Winchester Model 70 or Remington Model 700 not having different model #'s for short and long actions. Action length is dictated purely by the cartridge the rifle is chambered in as it should be.

The only way Savage will ever get themselves out of this cluster-phudge would be to come out with a completely different action with it's own unique screw spacing and such, give it a completely different model number, and totally abandon everything they've done before as far as model designations goes. It could still have the basic design features of the 110 (floating bolt head, barrel nut, etc), but it would have to be sufficiently unique in that there would be no parts compatibility with the old models.

Of course that would open up a new can of worms as the aftermarket would take forever to develop products for the new model out of fear Savage would change things yet again.

If they did it right they could possibly hit it big. Ruger is already seeing a lot more Aftermarket support with the RPR and Ruger American Action. I've even seen some working with their new Rimfire line.