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rfhall11
03-18-2018, 02:15 PM
I'm getting 4 to 5 inch groups @ 100 yards with the American Eagle stuff. Any body else having problems with this ammo? 1 in 7 twist, 18" barrel, 75 grain bullet.

Evlshnngns
03-18-2018, 04:13 PM
Just to be clear, this is in a Savage MSR? How many rounds through the gun? How does it shoot with other factor loads?

Robinhood
03-18-2018, 04:54 PM
What is your experience level? Are you using a front rest? Off a bench? Brand and model of scope..... yada yada.

rfhall11
03-18-2018, 07:10 PM
MSR 15 Recon LRP, Vortex PST scope, off the bench, rested front and rear, lots of experience, probably 80 rounds through it, no other ammo tried. I was mostly wondering if the ammo was junk.

Robinhood
03-18-2018, 11:23 PM
Then you know that 12 dollar a box ammo is hit or miss. Try some FGMM

https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-gold-medal-224-valkyrie-ammo-90-grain-sierra-matchking-gm224vlk1-p-78462.aspx

Evlshnngns
03-19-2018, 04:04 AM
5'' group does raise some flags. Let us know how it shoots some good stuff.

bearcatrp
03-19-2018, 03:14 PM
When Savage makes that rifle with a 1:6, 1:6.5, I will consider it. 1:7 should be fine for the lighter bullets. Try other brands with different weight. Should be able to find a sweet spot. Was going to get there 6.5cm but waiting on this caliber to get the kinks out.

rfhall11
03-19-2018, 04:50 PM
There are no other brands. Only different weights.

bearcatrp
03-19-2018, 09:54 PM
Try this.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1019613230/federal-premium-gold-medal-ammunition-224-valkyrie-90-grain-sierra-matchking-hollow-point-boat-tail

J.Baker
03-19-2018, 11:16 PM
First try some different ammo to rule that out since it's the cheapest and easiest thing to do. After that I would recommend trying a different scope on the rifle. 5" groups @ 100 is typically a result of a bad scope that's not holding zero or something loose in the mounts.

gbflyer
03-19-2018, 11:39 PM
First try some different ammo to rule that out since it's the cheapest and easiest thing to do. After that I would recommend trying a different scope on the rifle. 5" groups @ 100 is typically a result of a bad scope that's not holding zero or something loose in the mounts.

Agree. A good rifle will shoot junk ammo into an inch and a half.

BC98
03-20-2018, 10:14 AM
OP,

I would also try the 60gr varmint load for testing. I've seen some pretty impressive groups with that round as well.

rfhall11
03-20-2018, 05:26 PM
I put a different scope and rings on it yesterday. It is a weaver T 36 and a good scope. Although the wrong scope for this gun, I know it to work fine, but my groups did not improve. I have some of the SMK 90 grain coming but I wonder if that bullet is not too heavy for this gun. I hope to get out this coming Friday or Sunday for results, so time will tell.

This is way off topic, but while I was trying to get this gun to shoot yesterday, I struck up a conversation with a gentleman shooting a Sharps. He invited me to give it a try so I did and shot it twice. I hit the 10 ring at 100 yards using an aperture sight so I was happy. What a cool rifle

celltech
03-21-2018, 08:50 AM
Loose barrel nut perhaps?

243LPR
03-21-2018, 09:35 AM
IF it were mine I would tear it completely down and reassemble checking everything as I go. 1:7 might be too slow for those bullets though.

LoneWolf
03-21-2018, 10:00 AM
I doubt it's the 7 twist.... I have plenty of buddy's running 7 twist with 75grs projs. in a standard 223... I would check everything over and try a different optic.... if that didn't work I'd send it to savage or order a new barrel from XCaliber or other reputable manufacturer...

rfhall11
03-21-2018, 06:04 PM
For those who didn't read all the posts including the first one, It is a 1 in 7 twist, and I already swapped scopes. I don't think a 1 in 7 twist would be too slow. Do they come any faster?

miscverb
03-21-2018, 09:26 PM
For those who didn't read all the posts including the first one, It is a 1 in 7 twist, and I already swapped scopes. I don't think a 1 in 7 twist would be too slow. Do they come any faster?

i have the other model. i would check the following; clean the barrel if you have not, get the 90 grain federal match, ensure everything is tight etc, and if you have a bipod on a rail, make sure your mlok rail screws are not touching the barrel. i have found that the distance between the handguard and the barrel is minimal, and some mlok rail screws are long and will touch the barrel. if all that is good give it another try on bags, 50 yards then 100 yards, and with a secondary shooter. after that, send back to savage.

rfhall11
03-22-2018, 06:54 PM
Good advice. Got the 90 grain SMKs coming tomorrow. No bipod--rest with leather bag. No need for a secondary shooter. I have shot houseflies at 50 yards with my Anschutz MPR. I know what I'm doing. This problem is either the rifle, or ammo, or a combo. Thanks

miscverb
03-23-2018, 01:28 PM
Good advice. Got the 90 grain SMKs coming tomorrow. No bipod--rest with leather bag. No need for a secondary shooter. I have shot houseflies at 50 yards with my Anschutz MPR. I know what I'm doing. This problem is either the rifle, or ammo, or a combo. Thanks


let us know how it turns out. good luck.