Axis II XP

[CD82]

so I seen Walmart has the Axis II XP for like 450 after tax..
im wanting to get it in 6.5 CM.. the one im looking at has camo stock and it has havy barrel..

im also looking at the model 11 th in 6.5 it does not have camo stock or heavy barrel

the rifle I choose to buy will be used to hunt predators and varmints here in west texas

are there stock issues with the Axis II XP with it being flimsy near the barrel and causing scope zero issues? I heard there are

[CrazyHorse_7.62]

Most budget rifles come with the cheap flimsy stock! The 11 will hold its value better and has a lot more options on the aftermarket,the axis will be minute of critter accurate out of the box. The poi varies slightly but it’s not a huge deal!!! Most critters will be providing at least 4” of mass to hit, it may shift 1/2” at a 100.. not a huge deal but that 1/2” accumulates down range. If one was planning to shoot beyond 500 yards, I imagine a stock and a custom barrel would be in order for any factory rifle . If you plan to resale get the 11.. if your adding to your inventory then you can’t go wrong with the axis and the money saved buys more shells !

[pisgah]

Others may disagree, but in my experience the "flimsy" stock only becomes an issue if you are shooting off a bipod. The fore end has too much flex to allow proper use of the bipod, so if your plans include one you'd be better off with a stiffer stock. If, like me, you find a bipod more of a burden than an aide in your type of hunting, the standard stock will be fine.

[protaxidermist]

I have what I call my "Walmart gun" a Axis II with the heavy barrel camo stock in 6.5 CM. Its a Walmart exclusive. I can not find fault with the stock. I mashed the forend tip as hard as I could and and a dollar bill will still slide without touching but I must admit I dont use a bipod I really dont like them myself. The short heavy barrel is handy but you do lose fps with its 22 inch barrel. Investment wise I dont think they will ever become valuable but from reading on this site many love to customize them. You could call it a mondorn day Mauser with all kinds of parts you can buy for it. Main thing is have fun with it! If you want a HB gun with a 26 inch HB look at the Cabelas 12FV.

[CD82]

bipods are okay but I have a pair of homemade shooting sticks that I place the barrel on when I take my 243 out.. which its a Savage and I love it
I have also considered getting another 243 and setting it up with custom stuff for calling varmints etc... but I am really like what I am seeing with the 6.5 creedmoor

[CrazyHorse_7.62]

The 6.5c looks impressive for the long range (1,000+) but I hold out on the new whizbangs personally . If it’s around in another 20 years I’ll think about it.. your 243 will do everything you want for varmint and some ! If you need more umph a 308 is never bad to have around and there’s tons of data on the cartridge as well as huge supplies of various ammo.

If you reload the 243, it’s in my opinion the most under appreciated long range round! Most of the commercial loads are setup for smaller shooters/smaller game. You can roll some hot 243 aka (6.5mm);) and not need the 6.5c

[pisgah]

The 6.5c looks impressive for the long range (1,000+) but I hold out on the new whizbangs personally . If it’s around in another 20 years I’ll think about it.. your 243 will do everything you want for varmint and some ! If you need more umph a 308 is never bad to have around and there’s tons of data on the cartridge as well as huge supplies of various ammo.

If you reload the 243, it’s in my opinion the most under appreciated long range round! Most of the commercial loads are setup for smaller shooters/smaller game. You can roll some hot 243 aka (6.5mm);) and not need the 6.5c

Actually it's 6mm, not 6.5. The advantage to 6.5 is heavier bullets with a better ballistic coefficient. Nothing wrong with the .243, but I'd choose a 6.5 as ranges stretch out. But, then, I have a long-running love affair with the 6.5s. Nothing a 6.5 Creedmore can do that a 6.5x55 can't do.

[CrazyHorse_7.62]

I stand corrected :)

[CD82]

well I also like guns lol.. I have a .308 .243 two savage 22 rimfire.. 17hmr etc...
I seen the damage the 6.5 creedmoor did to a coyote im not a pelt guy so lol..
I think I may just have to get me the 6.5cm..

[prdatr]

The Creedmoor has been out for 11 years and gains a little more popularity each year.

[CD82]

I know local academy an wal mart sell a lot of the 6.5cm.. the stores have told me so they sell a lot of the ammo also..
I am hoping by Friday when I get paid I can get the rifle.. not a fan of the bushnell scope for it but it will work for now.
I am a fan of vortex so more than likely that's what will go on the rifle is a vortex... and the gun has the accutrigger which is one of my favs

[JimyP]

I have an Axis II XP... no problems this afternoon in staying zero'd for me. I have a standard tapered barrel. As an aside, it could use a muzzle break.

[SageRat Shooter]

You'd be better served looking at the Savage 12FV that Cabelas sells... Not sure if you have one close or not.... It's cheaper and is 3 times a better rifle then an Axis or Axis II.

[CD82]

the Savage 12 FV isn't cheaper at Cabelas its 419.99 before tax and I whould have to drive 3 hrs to go get it...
the gun at wal mart is 398 before tax plus a scope no its not the best.. but get me by till I can get a vortex
anyone have any idea on how much the gun from wal mart with the hb weighs

[onespeedbiker]

the Savage 12 FV isn't cheaper at Cabelas its 419.99 before tax and I whould have to drive 3 hrs to go get it...
the gun at wal mart is 398 before tax plus a scope no its not the best.. but get me by till I can get a vortex
anyone have any idea on how much the gun from wal mart with the hb weighsI have a Axis ll XP in 308 and it's a great gun; very accurate. I did make some changes, but it was only personal preference. First I didn't like the base/rings (the base came loss on several occasions), so I replaced all with Leupold. Further I also replaced the Bushnell scope with a Leupold V-2. It's not that the Bushnell scope is bad, but the optics are clearly it's Achilles heal; it's hard to explain, but you can see you are looking down a cheap scope. I also replaced the stock with a Boyd; they had a classic style for $150.00, so for me it was a no brainier. Again there is nothing wrong with the OEM synthetic stock, but I am used to a rigid stock, and the Boyd fit the bill.

[CD82]

its still a toss up between the 11/111 and the axis ii xp from wal mart.. I thnk its kind of cool that it is a wal mart exclusive gun cause I find nothing on it on the savage webpage

[SageRat Shooter]

the 11/111 will serve you better... It's a far better platform to build from (if you decide to do that) and the aftermarket support is far greater than the axis lines.

[BB68]

The only reason I bought an axis xp II was because my gun store had a massive sale on them and were out of .243 111s, which were also deeply discounted. Side by side you can see the cheapness of the axis.

[CD82]

well we are getting a new bigger academy and it opens Friday so I am going to go there and look for an 11/111 possibly I got a 20% off coupon.
so I am hoping they will have some in stock on the model 11/111 website says its online order only though heh

[Bad Bob]

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