Empty - bolt closes, loaded - bolt won't close

[Forrest Mc]

I finally got to the range with the new 6.5 CM in the Boyd's Pro Varmint stock. I took along a fresh box of Fusion 140 grainers to break the gun in a bit. Got the rifle all set up on the new Harris bipod and bore sighted the Vortex Viper 6.5-20x 44 at 50 yards. Now, I am purty darn anxious to see if this Savage 12fv 6.5 CM shoots as accurately as its .223 mate so I chamber a round...or tried to chamber a round. The bolt won't close, grrrrrr.
The sympathetic range master gave back my money and I went home.
Using a bore light I could see no blockage. I took off the scope and rail, removed the stock, then cycled the action without a problem. Then, with a round chambered, again I couldn't lower the bolt handle at all. The Fusion rounds all measure within SAAMI specs. I'm thinking the chamber reamer went home early! What do you think?

[RustyShackle]

Sounds like that could be a very real possibility. Otherwise it has a short throat and the bullet is preventing it from being chambered.

[ktmracer358]

Try taking some permanent marker and making the bullet all black chamber it and see if it leaves marks in the permanent marker might have to look close but that will tell you if you're getting the lands for sure.

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[VAFISH]

Sure sounds like improper headspace, whether it's the chamber was cut short or the barrel was installed improperly can't tell without a set of gauges and a barrel wrench. sounds like it needs to go back to savage.

[lonestardiver]

Sure sounds like improper headspace, whether it's the chamber was cut short or the barrel was installed improperly can't tell without a set of gauges and a barrel wrench. sounds like it needs to go back to savage.

+1...have the headspace checked and if incorrect send it back to Savage.

[Texas10]

The gun was proof fired at the factory. How likely is it that the headspace was changed after that?

Might try pulling down one of your rounds and see if the brass will chamber without the bullet. Also contact Savage CS and ask them what might be going on. I'm sure they'd be interested in hearing from you.

Good luck and please keep us updated.

[Stumpkiller]

I think headspace, as well. You can check for a short throat by sooting up the bullet in the cartridge with a candle and seeing if the soot rubs off when you try and chamber the round.

Have any local shooters or gunsmith with a set of go/no-go dummy cartridges?

Or rent them . . .

http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?46900-6-5-CM-quot-Go-quot-and-quot-No-Go-quot-gauges

[PhilC]

The gun was proof fired at the factory. How likely is it that the headspace was changed after that?

Might try pulling down one of your rounds and see if the brass will chamber without the bullet. Also contact Savage CS and ask them what might be going on. I'm sure they'd be interested in hearing from you.

Good luck and please keep us updated.
^^^^ Think I'd confirm the factory ammo used meets SAMMI COAL specs then chase headspace concerns.

[Forrest Mc]

I had tried bluing up a round and didn't see any scratches or marks after trying to chamber it. I chalked up the rounds shoulders and got chalk transfer to the chamber shoulders after trying to chamber it.
Then I called Savage Arms customer service and explained and they want me to send it back. That's what I'm doing.

[lonestardiver]

Sounds like headspace....

[sharpshooter]

The front action screw is too long. Back it off 1/2 a turn and try it again. By the screw being a smidget too long, it will close on an empty chamber because the bolt will float out of the way enough for it to close. Once a cartridge is there to center up the bolt, it interferes.

[Newsshooter]

The front action screw is too long. Back it off 1/2 a turn and try it again. By the screw being a smidget too long, it will close on an empty chamber because the bolt will float out of the way enough for it to close. Once a cartridge is there to center up the bolt, it interferes.

That was my first thought....

[Zero333]

I've never seen a Savage rifle with bad headspace...

But I've seen TONS with short freebore that stops rounds from being chambered cause the bullet is trying to go deep into the rifling.

[RustyShackle]

The front action screw is too long. Back it off 1/2 a turn and try it again. By the screw being a smidget too long, it will close on an empty chamber because the bolt will float out of the way enough for it to close. Once a cartridge is there to center up the bolt, it interferes.

I read the post as he had removed it from the stock with the same issues.

[psharon97]

You can rent a head space gauge for fairly cheap: https://www.reamerrentals.com/searchresults.asp?cat=26

[sharpshooter]

The extractor is not snapping over the rim.

[Artpro]

It is time for a headspace check to start with.

[LHitchcox]

I've never seen a Savage rifle with bad headspace...

But I've seen TONS with short freebore that stops rounds from being chambered cause the bullet is trying to go deep into the rifling.

I have. I bought a 110E from a pawn shop cheap because the extractor was missing. I replaced the extractor and test fired the rifle. Extraction was hard and the case had visible over-expansion. The sights were perfectly aligned at 12 o'clock. Probably a bit of debris was lodged in the chamber when headspace was set at the factory. I had to reset the headspace and remove the sights and plug the screw holes, since the sights were now off to the left.

[LHitchcox]

The extractor is not snapping over the rim.

I agree. He should remove the extractor and try to chamber a round.

[Forrest Mc]

The wait begins. The 12fv arrived at Savage yesterday. I spoke with Maureen - Customer Service this morning and what a polite lady she is. The rifle is in Receiving and I can expect a 3 week turn-around as it goes thru their process. A plant shutdown has things backed up a bit. I bought the gun online thru Cabela's and made a mistake in not going thru their customer service; 1. they would have sent me a return shipping label, saving me the $47 shipping cost. 2. Cabelas has clout with Savage.