224 Valkyrie, new from Remington?

[Texas10]

Read just a little about this on another forum; 224 Valkyrie. Very similar to 224AR http://www.6mmar.com/224_AR.html
except that it's based upon the 6.8 SPC instead of the 6.5 PPC and is intended for use in AR's.
Possible that Remington is coming out with it at shot show 2018??

Anyone have some information on the development and purpose? Is it just another new ammo for AR15 or does it serve some specific purpose such as long range sniping in a lighter platform?

Apparently go gages are already available.

What with the many dozens of hot little variants of the 224 that have existed for decades, what's special about this that will make it commercially viable?

inquiring minds will want to know....

[BC98]

I searched and found the post you're talking about. It said that the brass found was marked FC (Federal). Why would you think Remington would be releasing it?

[Texas10]

I was thinking that mostly because I was suffering a senior moment, or brain fart, or something. So yea, since you called me out on it, got anything new to add to the conversation? Or you just trying to make me look bad? Like that's really hard to do :black_eyed:

Just kidding....

[Robinhood]

Good form Tex.

[J.Baker]

I have heard rumors that Savage was playing around with a 22-caliber cartridge that Bob Greenleaf had come up. I don't recall the specifics on the cartridge, but Fred would probably know if this is it or not as he talks to Bob on occasion. If it is the one Savage is playing with it would only make sense that the brass would be Federal since they're both subsidiaries of Vista.

[BC98]

I re-read my post and realized that it came off quite flippant. I apologize for the tone.

With respect to the cartridge, I do know a little about the Valkyrie but am not really allowed to share most of what I know because it comes from friends in the industry. As soon as there is a public release, I'll share as much as I can. I can tell that it is a new cartridge and not based on anything developed by Bob Greenleaf.

[Texas10]

That's very interesting, BC98! Grist for the mill....so come on and toss another handful in and get this rolling!

..and I apologize too if I came off a bit harsh. Seems my sense of humor could stand a little tweeking. No, not that kind of tweeking...

[BC98]

Here's some more info on the cartridge. I believe the official release is in a couple of weeks.

https://fieldjournals.com/2017/10/05/larue-surg-in-224-valkyrie-big-3-east/

[Texas10]

And another article on Larue Stealth 2.0 in 224 Valkyrie: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/10/04/larue-surg-224-valkyrie-big-3-east/#disqus_thread

[BC98]

Federal officially announced the .224 Valkyrie today.

ETA: Here's a link to the YouTube video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HxQa6E7tm8

[No.343]

What twist rate are they using for the barrel?

[BC98]

What twist rate are they using for the barrel?

1:7

[BC98]

There's not much information on it yet but it looks like Savage will be releasing a rifle in .224 Valkyrie to support Federal's launch of the new cartridge.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/11/07/savage-224-valkyrie-ar15/

[darkker]

1:7

Will be interesting to see what they finally come up with for velocities on the varmint bullets; and what they are really trying to sell. Not unlike with the 223 WSSM, warp speeds and fast twists can easily destroy varmint bullet jackets. Nosler BT's and Sierra tipped varmint bullets have the strongest jackets, but can only withstand about 320,000 RPM. Of course individual barrel smoothness can play a large part in the final number.

[243LPR]

Sounds like a 22 Nosler.

[BC98]

Sounds like a 22 Nosler.

Same basic idea but the case geometry has been changed to allow heavy, high-BC projectiles to be loaded to AR-15 mag length. The practical limit for the 22 Nosler is really a 77gr SMK/Custom Competition bullet. Also, the Valkyrie does not use a rebated case head, instead using a standard 6.8 bolt face.

[243LPR]

I'm switching my 22 Nosler over to 22 Nosgar due to the brass being mangled. Valkyrie probably won't have that problem. Don't know why you'd want to run a 90 gr 22 bullet though.

[sixonetonoffun]

Doesn't bring anything more then a fast twist .225 Winchester (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.225_Winchester) did over 50 years ago.

[243LPR]

Doesn't bring anything more then a fast twist .225 Winchester (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.225_Winchester) did over 50 years ago.
But these are made to fit the AR 15 platform.

[BC98]

Don't know why you'd want to run a 90 gr 22 bullet though.

A .563 BC bullet going 2700 fps out of a 20" barrel might be a useful for long range shooting.