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foxx
07-23-2017, 06:01 PM
Rear entry wrenches good for second-time around, but not recommended for removing factory installed barrels.

bplumcrazy
07-26-2017, 01:55 PM
I'm in the middle of my build, waiting for my stock and barrel now. I bought just a action so I should be able to avoid the head aches from the factory barrel removal, correct..... Is it just the factory removal that is a pain or just your first time removing a barrel?

RC20
07-26-2017, 02:23 PM
That is correct

You still have to get a barrel ON the gun.

And then you may well need to undo it to adjust the headspace that did not come out quite right.

And then back tight again.

That's where the tools are needed as well.

hereinaz
07-26-2017, 04:29 PM
As long as you don't employ the same gorilla to tighten your barrel nut that Savage uses, then, yes, you are correct. It is much easier the second go round.

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RP12
07-26-2017, 04:41 PM
Why not just use a barrel vice and nut wrench ? Just asking.

foxx
07-26-2017, 05:39 PM
^^^ LOL Right???

Removing factory barrels is not all that tough. Harder than removing a barrel that wasn't installed at the factory, but nothing to run away from. Some tools are necessary, but you'll need those same tools for installing the barrel.

Boondoggle
07-26-2017, 05:44 PM
Why not just use a barrel vice and nut wrench ? Just asking.That's where I've ended up. I got a viper barrel vise and a NSS barrel nut wrench on the way. If for some reason that doesn't get it done I'll pick up an action wrench. I don't think I'll need it

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hereinaz
07-26-2017, 09:06 PM
Why not just use a barrel vice and nut wrench ? Just asking.Preference mostly. Virtues and drawbacks with both.

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hereinaz
07-26-2017, 09:09 PM
^^^ LOL Right???

Removing factory barrels is not all that tough. Harder than removing a barrel that wasn't installed at the factory, but nothing to run away from. Some tools are necessary, but you'll need those same tools for installing the barrel.The first time taking off a factory barrel can surprise you... but foxx is right, they thread off the same as any other.

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m12lrs
07-27-2017, 11:31 AM
That's where I've ended up. I got a viper barrel vise and a NSS barrel nut wrench on the way. If for some reason that doesn't get it done I'll pick up an action wrench. I don't think I'll need it

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Now i have never removed a factory barrel. Just buy actions and barrels and put.them together.

Exactly what i use. Bought the NSS action wrench when i first started but quickly abandoned it for the barrel vice. Barrel vice is nice. I use it when i am setting headspace and when i am working on triggers.

I also have a rear entry action wrench that i use to change barrels. Once i get the headspace set on a barrel i glue the barrel nut on. That allows me to spin that barrel off and later put it back on without worrying about headspace. I use the barrel vice and rear entry action wrench for that.

Wayne Nixon
07-27-2017, 08:56 PM
Now i have never removed a factory barrel. Just buy actions and barrels and put.them together.

Exactly what i use. Bought the NSS action wrench when i first started but quickly abandoned it for the barrel vice. Barrel vice is nice. I use it when i am setting headspace and when i am working on triggers.

I also have a rear entry action wrench that i use to change barrels. Once i get the headspace set on a barrel i glue the barrel nut on. That allows me to spin that barrel off and later put it back on without worrying about headspace. I use the barrel vice and rear entry action wrench for that.

What kind of glue do you use on the barrel nut? Where did you get the rear entry wrench? This how I would like to set up my Axis for barrel swaps, seems like faster and easier to do.

hereinaz
07-27-2017, 09:03 PM
What kind of glue do you use on the barrel nut? Where did you get the rear entry wrench? This how I would like to set up my Axis for barrel swaps, seems like faster and easier to do.Blue loctite

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m12lrs
07-27-2017, 09:26 PM
What kind of glue do you use on the barrel nut? Where did you get the rear entry wrench? This how I would like to set up my Axis for barrel swaps, seems like faster and easier to do.

Blue locktite

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/wrenches/davidson-rear-entry-action-wrench-stolle-savage-sku749005813-36311-63432.aspx

RC20
07-28-2017, 01:47 PM
I don't use any glue

None is needed.

If you use glue that is not needed then you are going to need heat to get it off.

It won't wreck things but why do something you don't have to for no gain?

m12lrs
07-28-2017, 04:42 PM
I don't use any glue

None is needed.

If you use glue that is not needed then you are going to need heat to get it off.

It won't wreck things but why do something you don't have to for no gain?

So what you are saying is.you have no idea why someone.would.glue the barrel.nut.to the barrel.

What a barrel does is create a shoulder on the barrel. Now why would someone want to create a permanent shoulder on a barrel?

foxx
07-28-2017, 07:58 PM
^^^but you already explained why you glue the nut on your barrel after setting the head space.

My only question is why blue? I haven't tried it, but it seems "iffy". I'd be afraid it would loosen when wrenching on and off.

m12lrs
07-28-2017, 08:19 PM
^^^but you already explained why you glue the nut on your barrel after setting the head space.

My only question is why blue? I haven't tried it, but it seems "iffy". I'd be afraid it would loosen when wrenching on and off.

You don't wrench on the nut you use a barrel.vice and unscrew the action from the barrel.with a rear entry action wrench. you have index lines to make sure nothing moves.

You just tighten the barrel snug. 30 ft/lb is plenty. Some just hand tighten

foxx
07-28-2017, 08:30 PM
^^^cool.

hereinaz
07-28-2017, 10:53 PM
You don't wrench on the nut you use a barrel.vice and unscrew the action from the barrel.with a rear entry action wrench. you have index lines to make sure nothing moves.

You just tighten the barrel snug. 30 ft/lb is plenty. Some just hand tightenIt is really the barrel nut that is doing the work as the shoulder, the barrel is along for the ride, so the nut doesn't spin on the barrel-- but you gotta use the action wrench. Another reason some use action wrench....

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Wayne Nixon
07-29-2017, 02:14 PM
If I'm understanding this - I could leave the scope on change barrels and only need to fine tune scope for caliber I change too. Would just need to have barrel nut on each barrel, head space set and loctite nut on barrel. This would work for me and the way I want to swap barrels.