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trappst
08-28-2010, 12:46 PM
Very simple folks.......buy the gauges and be done with it.

Vano, I sent you a PM

Eric in NC
08-28-2010, 04:00 PM
Biged - sorry I PO'd you - have many years of loading experience too. Load for the 303 Brit in several Enfields (including a Savage - I can reach the throat of all but one of them with 174 grain SMKs BTW) and a Winchester 95, also load for 577/450, 40-72, 40-82, 50-70 and many others in rifles quite a bit more than 67 years old so don't think I was bad mouthing your cartridge or rifle.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd314/erbeckerdite/USN-1.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd314/erbeckerdite/dane1.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd314/erbeckerdite/hunting2.jpg

Your method certainly works for your application - so does putting tape around the case head of 45-70 brass when forming it in a Danish Rolling block chamber, same thing using 32 Long in a Nagant revolver, a whole host of methods to form 7x57 brass in No1 Remingtons, etc. etc.

But it has little to do with what the poster asked and is not something I would reccomend to a new guy asking about setting headspace with his rimless cartridge (particularly on a gun like a Savage where you CAN set the headspace).

As trappst said - buy, rent or borrow the gauges. You can also use a fired and FL sized piece of brass (sized in your dies) if you want (assuming you are using rimless, non-belted cartridges).

And I will take on your 67 year old enfield with my 1867 Dane roller any time you want! ;)

vano
08-28-2010, 04:12 PM
vano here
thanks for the info
another piece of info i went to the range with this rifle it shot lapua ammo fine
if it chambers the shoulder bumped once fired brass all is well right?
load and shoot again right?
later vano

Eric in NC
08-28-2010, 04:19 PM
Yep - good deal.

bigedp51
08-29-2010, 06:18 PM
bigedp51 is not POed and the Lee Enfield rifle has has adjustable headspace for over 110 years, which is a bit longer than you Savage and Stevens owners.

My No.4 Mk.2 below has two bolt heads fitted, normal military headspace for the Enfield is .064 minimum and .074 maximum. The two bolt heads below give me headspace settings of .067 for military ammo and .062 (.002 under minimum headspace) for American made commercial .303 cases.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/IMGP1355.jpg

My comments about "in a pigs A$$" and "ESAD" are good old fashion GI humor, so if you can't take a joke stay out of the kitchen.

Besides my pet pig thought my jokes were funny!

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/smilingpig.jpg

bigedp51
08-29-2010, 06:51 PM
Read the article below from 6mmbr.com, this person has his 6mmbr set up a + .005 over minimum headspace.
(this would be +.007 using a new unfired case as a headspace gauge)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/PrecMIC_6BRAA.jpg

"Now I can use the 308 version of the RCBS Precision Mic to compare brass which has been fully sized in my 6BR body die with brass which has been fired in my chamber. With the spacer inserted, FL-resized cases mic 0.000” at the datum point on the shoulder. Using the same set-up, fire-formed cases measure 0.005”. In other words, my chamber has a headspace of +0.005" above minimum dimensions. This is fairly typical of a custom rifle set up for switch-barrel use."

Click on the link below.

TOOL TIP -- Headspace Measuring

http://www.6mmbr.com/6BRPrecMIC.html

Ain't it funny what a little reloading bench engineering can do for you. (why do you think I have and use a RCBS Precision Mic?)