Where are all these 1/2MOA Savages coming from?

[Rondogg]

Hmmm. You say they all are not accurate, yet Savage produces some ofthe most accurate out of the box rifles there are. I have an LRP in 6.5 that shoots dimes at 100yds all day. Maybe it's the nut behind the butt causing the inaccuracy problems????

[zach_]

Hmmm. You say they all are not accurate, yet Savage produces some ofthe most accurate out of the box rifles there are. I have an LRP in 6.5 that shoots dimes at 100yds all day. Maybe it's the nut behind the butt causing the inaccuracy problems????
Nut behind the butt. (he he he)

Then there are also those that talk about about their sub moa shooting at 1000 yards with the 308 rifle that they just shot 1, 1.5" group out of 5 groups at 100 yards on a target minutes before, the other 4 groups being larger of course. "She really shines past 800". I heard that one too many times today.

[Rackfreak210]

Hmmm. You say they all are not accurate, yet Savage produces some ofthe most accurate out of the box rifles there are. I have an LRP in 6.5 that shoots dimes at 100yds all day. Maybe it's the nut behind the butt causing the inaccuracy problems????

I agree totally. I have a 10 fcp-sr in 6.5 creedmoor and it shoots 3 different factory loads into one hole at 100 yds. Well below a half minute rifle.


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[Texas10]

I agree totally. I have a 10 fcp-sr in 6.5 creedmoor and it shoots 3 different factory loads into one hole at 100 yds. Well below a half minute rifle.


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Back in the day they called that "one in a thousand" !!!

[Rackfreak210]

Back in the day they called that "one in a thousand" !!!

I agree that they might not all shoot this well but there are other factors involved in a rifles potential accuracy. All in all with the research i did before buying this rifle, it seemed that they all generally shot exceptionally well.


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[aephilli822]

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also, you wil never know the full potential til you shoot at night w/ zero wind.
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or in The Houston Wharehouse :rolleyes:

[LinemanBob]

I am very pleased with my model 12FV in .308. Including the rifle, scope and mounts including all taxes, I have $666.13 invested. If you know of another brand that can match the accuracy of the Savage I would like to know about it. I cannot shoot sub MOA groups but 1 MOA is pretty easy for me.

[DLALLDER]

I have a model 12 in 223 that with a good shooter, I believe will produce .25 groups regular. I am 71 and I can on a good day for me I can get half inch or less.

[farlou]

My 10 FCP-SR shoots 1/2 MOA consistently and on a good day will reward me with 1/3 MOA groups. Not bad for a rifle that cost $630.

It took a few weeks to develop a good load but now I have it. One thing that made a big difference is fire formed brass and neck sizing only. Full length resizing will not shoot good groups for me.

[Spearjunkie]

You read about the 1/2 groups on the Internet all the time. Even on the AR forums. I am not saying.it is impossible to have.a consistent 1/2" rifle but consistent is what I am taking about.

Give me a target with 5 5 shot groups that average 1/2" and that is a half inch rifle. Not one 3 shot group.

Agreed! It takes a dam good shooter to consistently shoot 1/2 MOA, I am not one of those shooters as of yet. :o

Update: Shot a couple groups st an indoor range today being we are going to shoot some long range tomorrow. Everything I shot at 100 yards was 3/4 or better and my best 5 shot group could almost be covered with a dime.

[Jdun91764]

model 12 LRP will shoot 1 hole at 100 meters with worked up handloads. I have 6.5 Creedmoor and 204 Ruger that shoot 1 hole - the Creedmoor now has a shilen as I shot out the stock barrel. Even the stock barrel shot 1 hole.

I thought they they all did it until I got a 110le in 300wm that shoots like shit. I am still working on it though.

The Model 12 LRP are the way to go IMHO.

that or a blue printed remage.

jd

[RC20]

or in The Houston Wharehouse :rolleyes:

Yea that was some good reading. What they did was amazing.

Its a shame the bullet mfgs don't do that kind of research and publish it.

[zach_]

Yea that was some good reading. What they did was amazing.

Its a shame the bullet mfgs don't do that kind of research and publish it.
Do you have a link to the story?

[stinkysix]

Savage Stealth 338 Lapua, 250gr Matchking, Retumbo powder, last three groupings .372, .2815 and .296. Will load some H1000 next

[gmanhawaii]

I have only had a sample size of three but all three were 2MOA+ guns with 5 shot groups from the bench on sand bags (front and back of stock). Two of the three were closer to 3MOA.

This is with stock rifles in:
-Axis 243
-16 in 270WSM

And a stock rifle with a bedded synthetic stock:
-110E in 270

I will give them that the triggers were great after adjustments, but accuracy was nothing to write home about (i.e. I've had more accurate rifles). So I guess my question is, where are all these 0.5MOA out of the box Savages I read about on the internet coming from? I wonder if maybe they're referring to one lucky 3 shot group out of several. That wouldn't be a surprise, but a consistent 0.5MOA? I've never seen it in a Savage. I like the concept of Savage. They're sturdy and easy to upgrade, but I'm talking about stock Savages. It seems from the ones I've owned 2MOA is what can be expected (at least in most cases). Am I wrong?

Brand new FLCP in DMT chassis .308, cleaned before taking to the range. Fired 3 fouling shots with crap ammo, took 5 rounds to dial in the scope Hornady match ammo. Fired 40 rounds of my own recipe, Lapua Brass trimmed to 2.005, Fed 210 primer, 168 gr SMK, 44.5 gr Varget OAL 2.800

First two group .334, .437 Last two .558 and .570 after 46 rounds

[DonB]

I have an Axis II in .223, a Model 116 .300 win mag and a Model 112 in .338 Lapua that all shoot under 1/2 MOA with my developed hand loads. The Lapua is the leader of the pack by far. It shoots a .195 group at 100yds and holds a .25 MOA group at 1000yds. Had my grandson try the 1000yd milk jug challange with it and he succeeded with his first shot. I've shot lots of different rifles over the years because of my work, but I sure am glad I discovered Savage.

[65Whelen]

I have only had a sample size of three but all three were 2MOA+ guns with 5 shot groups from the bench on sand bags (front and back of stock). Two of the three were closer to 3MOA.

This is with stock rifles in:
-Axis 243
-16 in 270WSM

And a stock rifle with a bedded synthetic stock:
-110E in 270

I will give them that the triggers were great after adjustments, but accuracy was nothing to write home about (i.e. I've had more accurate rifles). So I guess my question is, where are all these 0.5MOA out of the box Savages I read about on the internet coming from? I wonder if maybe they're referring to one lucky 3 shot group out of several. That wouldn't be a surprise, but a consistent 0.5MOA? I've never seen it in a Savage. I like the concept of Savage. They're sturdy and easy to upgrade, but I'm talking about stock Savages. It seems from the ones I've owned 2MOA is what can be expected (at least in most cases). Am I wrong?

Got mine off of Gunbroker. Bought a Savage 12 VPL 22-250. With reloads it shot a 1/3 MOA and averaged 5/8 MOA before I swapped the barrels to a 65 Creedmoor. And after some load development, this last weekend got my first "one ragged hole". Neither barrels shot moa with factory ammo but with some tweaking and load development, looking good.

[want2ride]

I have 2 that can shoot 1/2" with my brother shooting, 3/4 when I am. 10T and LRP both in 6.5 Creedmoor.

I also have a 1" 300 WSM 116 and a 1" 25 06 Axis and a 1.5" 7mm08 Axis. I am convinced that both of the axis can be better with a better trigger, even with the spring trimmed the creep is holding me back from great groups.... consistently.

[rckendall]

Am I wrong?

Holy cow, you must have gotten a lemon or two. Or maybe you are just shooting cheap ammo? I just started shooting my first Savage, a 12FV in 223. Right out of the box it is shooting 5/8" five shot groups using Black Hills remanufactured 68 gn ammo. Today with some hand loads, it again shot a 5/8" five shot string and a string at under 1/2", but it was only three shots, so I'm not counting that one yet. But, I'll do more testing with that load next week.

I have a Harris bipod on mine and mostly shooting in prone position. These are great little guns!

Richard

[rckendall]

I have only had a sample size of three but all three were 2MOA+ guns with 5 shot groups from the bench on sand bags (front and back of stock). Two of the three were closer to 3MOA.

This is with stock rifles in:
-Axis 243
-16 in 270WSM

And a stock rifle with a bedded synthetic stock:
-110E in 270

I will give them that the triggers were great after adjustments, but accuracy was nothing to write home about (i.e. I've had more accurate rifles). So I guess my question is, where are all these 0.5MOA out of the box Savages I read about on the internet coming from? I wonder if maybe they're referring to one lucky 3 shot group out of several. That wouldn't be a surprise, but a consistent 0.5MOA? I've never seen it in a Savage. I like the concept of Savage. They're sturdy and easy to upgrade, but I'm talking about stock Savages. It seems from the ones I've owned 2MOA is what can be expected (at least in most cases). Am I wrong?

Here is an update on my rifle, a 12FV in 223 from Cabelas. I am hand loading 69 grain SMK over IMR 8208 powder. This is a 1/4" group and the one just prior to this one was 1/2". These are great little rifles!

Richard
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5 shot group