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tammons
08-10-2010, 07:23 PM
20# or not.
I don't want to fire an 8 ounce bullet out of anything unless its bolted down.

The key part of the story....

I spun around like a weathercock in a hurricane

defoxer
08-13-2010, 04:24 AM
Long action will fit a cartridge up to 97mm (3.8inch for those not metrically inclined) without tool hitting metal - but with mag&stock massaging. That only rules out the longest NitroExpress chambering, 505MG and BMG family (bolt face would also exclude).

That said, you could ream your tube to whatever chamberings, including 30cal, you desired.
300 Lapua ?? 30-378.....460 what the ****!![<--was that censored admin??] recoil...for some strange reason shooting at the range the plastic stocked 375H&H almost brings me to tears while out in the wilds...I barely feal it. something about the adrenaline I think.

Back to the question...for long range why not a 7mmKM, with a super slippery 7mm projjie. Plenty of capacity to drive at warp speed.

and guys whats with the long postings, wears me out ;D.
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GabbyM
08-13-2010, 11:33 AM
Plenty of camberings out there which just shows how many different ways there are to skin a cat.

I&#39;m a fan of 30-06 Ackley Improved for a heavy hitter. Far more efficient than the over bore magnums. 30-06 AI will drive a 180 grain bullet over 2,900 fps from a 24 inch barrel. Some run 180&#39;s to 3,000 fps. 300 Win Mag only beats that by 100 fps and it needs around 12 grains more powder for that 100 fps. While the 300 Rem Ultra Mag uses over 90 grains of powder and still does not break 3200 fps with a 180 grain bullet. To me that&#39;s a tremendous amount of recoil for nothing. Plus with close shots it&#39;s hard for a bullet to stay in one piece at over 3K fps anyways. 30-06 AI does a good job on the various 200 grain bullets and will push a 220 grain Hornady round nose at around 2,700 fps. The AI will hold something like 60 grains of H4831. That is a lot of powder.

You also have the advantage of being able to use any 30-06 ammo off the shelf at the local gas station.
I&#39;d want a 24 or 26 inch barrel but if all you want is a short lightweight you could simply send the stock 22 inch 30-06 Savage barrel off to be chambered AI. Removing more weight off the muzzle end with high price material is IMO all wrong. Muzzle weight is what keeps the rifle out of your face when shot.
Standard Savage offering of 22 inch sporter contour barrel is already to short and to light in my view. But that&#39;s just my 2 cents.

If I were to build an Alaskan rifle. I&#39;d use a 24” barrel with a straight sectioned tuned at the muzzle with a band style front sight. A low profile aperture receiver sight then a low power light weight scope in front and over that. Keep the weight down by not hanging a 1 ½ pound scope package on a 7 pound rifle. I like a variable scope that will turn down to 1X so I can shoot with both eyes open. Have a Weaver 1 x 3x that I like and it&#39;s cheap enough you can buy two.

Of course the AI is a hand load round. Standard 30-06 is kept at low pressure in difference to old 03 Springfield but I believe you can buy ammo loaded up higher pressure anymore. A set of AI reloading dies does run a step higher in price than standard dies but the 30 RUM dies probably cost as much. 06 brass will be way cheaper than the big mag brass. An Ackley will cost a lot more to shoot since you&#39;d actually shoot through fifty rounds or so just for fun.

pd721el
08-13-2010, 01:20 PM
If a ultra lite big mag is what you want go for it! I had on 1, no 2 and have now come to my sences. Im sure you are aware of the mean recoil it will have. I used to hunt with a 340 Wby in a trg s not ultra lite my any means, and it was punishing , then put together a 8 lbs complete 300 win. not as bad but not fun. I currently run a 11 lbs complete 338 w/ a brake and it is a joy compared to the others. Have fun and get what you want, but most will say ultralite and LR dont go together all that well.

http://i548.photobucket.com/albums/ii326/pd721el/30%20wm0/Picture259-2.jpg
wrong brand but you get the idea.

borg
08-16-2010, 01:25 AM
Plenty of camberings out there which just shows how many different ways there are to skin a cat.

I&#39;m a fan of 30-06 Ackley Improved for a heavy hitter. Far more efficient than the over bore magnums.

See, that is a good idea. Problem: I feel the need to whack the shit out of myself with rifle. Solution: Try not to break your shoulder.

DGD6MM
08-16-2010, 12:59 PM
Well, what&#39;s it gonna be? There is verygood info here from experienced people. Moose and Sheep, almost sounds like a need for 2 calibers. I&#39;d lean towards a 338 if it is just 1 caliber. I do and have owned quite a few magnums, but the .338 Edge appeals to me.