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scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 11:54 AM
Ok,
First, I have googled and searched here before asking and I think I know the answer but want to be 100 % sure before I move forward.

How do you identify whether or not a bare 110 action is stagger feed or center feed? Or does it even matter. I have an old 110 action pre accutrigger that I want to build up into a dbm rifle using 111 stock parts but not sure if it will work or not.

keeki
10-01-2016, 12:16 PM
Pull the action out of the stock, if the magazine is attached to the action it's a staggerfeed, if the mag stays in the stock it's a centerfeed

earl39
10-01-2016, 12:16 PM
stagger feed action has grooves in bottom of receiver for the magazine lips to fit in ie.. stagger feed mag is attached to action and center feed is not. I believe there are other differences but that is the easiest to spot.

keeki
10-01-2016, 12:19 PM
There will be notches in each end of the cutout for the mag to attach on a staggerfeed, not on a centerfeed

scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 12:22 PM
Pull the action out of the stock, if the magazine is attached to the action it's a staggerfeed, if the mag stays in the stock it's a centerfeed

Bare action. No stock

scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 12:23 PM
stagger feed action has grooves in bottom of receiver for the magazine lips to fit in ie.. stagger feed mag is attached to action and center feed is not. I believe there are other differences but that is the easiest to spot.

Thank you

scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 12:57 PM
Can the action be built either way if it's bare?

keeki
10-01-2016, 01:13 PM
I don't see why it couldnt

foxx
10-01-2016, 01:43 PM
No, it cannot. A stagger feed can be modified to work with centerfeed blind magazine ( will still need a staggerfeed stock). The underside of the action will need machining, though.

It is almost impossible to find all the parts necessary to make a staggerfeed dbm.

I dont believe you can do anything to make a center feed accept stagger feed mags.

foxx
10-01-2016, 01:53 PM
Come to think of it, i have converted a long action centerfeed to accept staggerfeed dbm box once. However, it required machining and, as i said before, the parts for staggerfeed dbm are pretty much unavailable by now. I know because i have been scrounging for them for years.

keeki
10-01-2016, 02:43 PM
Glad you rang in then, I really don't have a clue. Never dealt with cf much

Robinhood
10-01-2016, 02:48 PM
The stagger feed actions are fine. You will need to build it as such. When buying a bare action, the one thing you need to be careful of is how it was disassembled. Pull the bolt out and look down the raceway. The lines of the action should be straight. The flats where the bolt slides should not be wavy or twisted even the slightest bit.

scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 04:48 PM
Machining means I'm not even going to attempt. The parts were easy to find though. I'll post them for others.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161001/8d00159617e17c5f77ccb3093378b2f5.png

Robinhood
10-01-2016, 05:18 PM
Sorry if I don't understand the last post but I'm going to throw this out there. The Stagger Feed long action will bolt into a Center Feed stock and vice versa. The CF DBM frame will screw to the SF action. In most instances the magazine does not line up without modifications if stocks and or magazines/DBM's are interchanged. Finding parts and assembling a mixture of feed types are two different things. A finished rifle that functions correctly is considered success.

scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 05:52 PM
Sorry if I don't understand the last post but I'm going to throw this out there. The Stagger Feed long action will bolt into a Center Feed stock and vice versa. The CF DBM frame will screw to the SF action. In most instances the magazine does not line up without modifications if stocks and or magazines/DBM's are interchanged. Finding parts and assembling a mixture of feed types are two different things. A finished rifle that functions correctly is considered success.

That was more my worry. Looking at the action I'm sure it could be bolted together, but will it function would be the question. Although looking at cdi website, the make one specifically for the SF and of course install it as well. So... looks like I'm going with aics mags... bummer lol

Robinhood
10-01-2016, 06:48 PM
So... looks like I'm going with aics mags... bummer lol

Don't forget Pmags. Under $40.00

scionxb3003
10-01-2016, 06:49 PM
Don't forget Pmags. Under $40.00

Yeah those were likely what I would do. Aics style I should have said.