shooting bad with .308 with 175 SMK

[725franky]

Yeah, that was me at Parma woods with my sister-in-law.

She had just bought her first hand gun and that was the first time she ever shot it. Pretty much the first time she ever shot...

Oh, and just FYI I am just visiting Kansas (for now); I live in Michigan

[Jamie]

Has anyone here had good results with Ramshot powders? Like TAC or Big Game in their .308?

I ask because I'm kind of having a hard time finding either Varget (almost impossible) or RL15 (places only have 1lbs for around $26+ !).


I went to Ramshot for all my calibers. I currently use TAC in my 308 Win and I have used Hunter in it as well. Black Hills Ammo uses TAC in thier .223 and .308 loads.

[725franky]

So how did the TAC & Hunter shoot for you in your .308? I'm really thinking of starting to use Ramshot powder for my .308 since it seems to be pretty readily available and I've been hearing good things about it.

[Jamie]

It has worked well for me. WIth Hunter I worked up loads that were true .5" with a few that got into the .3's. I never really got around to making an ultra accurate load in it with TAC. I loaded a bunch up for a range day and they shot under 1", right at .75" so I left it alone since it was minute of clay pigeon at 300 yrds. I did work up loads in my daughters Rock River (.223 ) and easily shot a 1" ten shot group. She doesn't care as long as it is minute of steel plate at 300 yards. My .243 pistol built off a Target action loves Hunter with 105 A maxes. Honest .2"-.3" unless I goof them up. My daughter shot a 1 1/8" 5 shot group with a 22-243 Middlestead I built using Hunter. It was the first day she ever shot a center fire rifle. While it may not be the most accurate for an individual gun but I haven't felt like they ever hindered me in the accuracy department.

I am using 165 and 168 grn bullets in the 308, your rifle may not like the 175's with any powder so throw a couple 168's through it as well.

[borg]

Since you've got 6 lbs of H414 I'd suggest using a magnum primer like a CCI-250 or Federal 215. I've got a pound of H414 I've been planning to try in my 10FLP but I haven't found time yet. If you decide to give magnum primers a try please post your results (good or bad), and don't forget work up from a lower charge.

I've used the Federal magnum primer with H414 while working up loads for my .30-06. I had to significantly lower the loads, far more than I had expected. I'd start a full grain below the minimum load--at most. Using magnum primers had no noticeable effect on the accuracy, which was about 2 or 3 MOA.

[Dennis]

My 308FCP loves 43.5grns varget, CCI and 175SMK's

The above is my favorite load, I have no pictures, but the below pictures speaks for itself!

http://i957.photobucket.com/albums/ae56/Dennis4437/175Bergers426VargetCCI.jpg

[bigedp51]

H414 is nothing more the Winchester 760 powder re-labled as H414 by Hodgdons and 760-H414 require magnum rifle primers. You are not getting good ignition and most likely a bad pressure curve.

RL-15 is now loaded in the military special long range ammunition and is also a double base powder.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/m118.jpg

Prior to this the Special Long rang ammunition was loaded with WC750 which was a special blend of Winchester 748 ball powder.

Varget and RL15 would be top choices for single and double base powders.

Note: Over half of Remington Dupont IMR powders are made in Australia by ADI

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/ADIpowder.jpg

[harv5117]

Savage 10FCP 308 42 grains RE-15 210M Primer with 175 SMK

[earl39]

In a Rem 700 (sorry, my Savage is 22-250) I used Winchester brass, Fed 210, Sierra 175's and 34 grains of BLC-2 yielded 1/2" groups @ 100 yards in moderate weather.


Is that a typo or are you really using 34 grains of BLC-2 behind a 175 mk? Hodgdon says the min. load is 43 grains.