Savage 111 in 250 Savage?

[Maine-iac]

Someone has advertised in a local swap and trade site a Savage 111 in 250 Savage. Blue with wood stock and sights. They say factory new with original hang tags. I have asked for photos but I wanted to see if anyone out there had come across one of these in this caliber? I sure haven't.:confused:

[reel55]

Savage website says they can make special order calibers not in there catalog -Maybe this is one?

[Maine-iac]

Good chance that is exactly what it is. Seller still has not got back to me with pics.

[J.Baker]

Savage resurrected the .250 Savage chambering for a couple years back around 2008-2009 or thereabouts, so it's likely just been sitting on the shelf collecting dust since then.

[Dan Fletcher]

My nephew has a 110 in 250 that is very similar to the 111 you described. It has the flat back action and if I remember correctly, it has the intermediate action screw spacing that preceded the 4.275 short action spacing. When the 250 was resurrected around 2008-2009, I believe it was in the model 14, and maybe the model 11.

[J.Baker]

Was also offered in the Model 16 Weather Warrior during those years as that's the one I reviewed here on the site.

[Maine-iac]

I knew Savage had chambered that caliber in some of the "nicer" models like the 110 WLE and 14 and 16. I have an American Classic in that caliber. Currently my favorite go to deer rifle. Glad to learn it is also available in some of the more affordable models. I would like to pick up one for my son. Now if I could just get the seller to call me back!

[Ranch Dog]

I had a 110 WLE chambered in 300 Savage. The 250 Savage and 7x57 Mauser were also offered. These rifles have longer throats so that bullets heavier than the normal offerings can be used, it is also why they were offered as long actions. There was 1,000 made but no record as to what numbers of each caliber were made. I've seen the 250 Savage, there was one on GunBroker a few days ago, but I've never seen the 7x57 offering.

http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/110/images/110_01.jpg

http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/110/images/sav_110_01.jpg

http://www.ranchdogoutdoors.com/Firearms/110/images/110WLE_info.jpg

[Ranch Dog]

There are two on Gunbroker (http://www.gunbroker.com/Bolt-Action-Rifles/BI.aspx?Keywords=250+Savage+110&ca=5000036&mfg=1000248) right now. One has been restocked which is unfortunate as all that I've seen had very nice wood.

[J.Baker]

I had a 110 WLE chambered in 300 Savage. The 250 Savage and 7x57 Mauser were also offered. These rifles have longer throats so that bullets heavier than the normal offerings can be used, it is also why they were offered as long actions. There was 1,000 made but no record as to what numbers of each caliber were made. I've seen the 250 Savage, there was one on GunBroker a few days ago, but I've never seen the 7x57 offering.



Just a little correction here. The 110WLE's were made on long-actions because that's all that Savage made at the time. Production of the Gen I short action ended in 1987. The Gen II short-action didn't come out until 1998. All rifles that were manufactured by Savage in the gap between them were built on long actions. Those chambered for short-action cartridges just had a shorter port machined into the bottom of the action to use a short-action magazine. It had nothing to do with throat length or bullet weight/length.

Great guns though. The 7x57 Mauser chambering was only offered in 1976 and 1977 in the Model 111 Chieftain, and then again in 1992 and 1993 in the 110WLE.

Other cartridges that were only offered on the 110 platform for a brief period were:

.425 Express (1995)
7.64 Bren (2001)
7mm STW (2001 & 2002)
7mm RUM (2002 & 2003)
7mm RSAUM (2002 & 2003)
.300 RSAUM (2002 & 2003)
7.62x39 (2011-2013)

Interestingly enough, neither the .250 or .300 Savage were offered on the 110 platform until the 1990's. The main reason for this with the .300 Sav. is likely due to the fact that the 110 was offered in .308 Win, and since it they are so close in terms of ballistics that there was no reason to offer both. Oddly though, after being available for 11 years Savage stopped listing the .308 Win. as being offered in the 110 platform after 1970 and it didn't return until the 1978 catalog. The only logical reason I can think of for doing so would be to try and boost sales of the Model 99's in .308 Win during those years.

Savage made a similar move with the .223 Remington cartridge in that it was offered in the 110 platform in 1976 and 1977, but then disappeared from the 110 and didn't return until 1987. During that gap the .223 Rem was made available in the Model 340 bolt-action.

This is the kind of useless info one stumbles upon when you make quick reference spreadsheets of catalog data. lol

[Maine-iac]

MrFurious Thank you for that info. I find it all interesting. I don't think Savage gets enough credit for their cartridge designs. The 250 and 300 Savage paved way for a lot of modern day calibers. But that's a topic for another thread.