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vermist
07-21-2010, 08:03 AM
Love the forums, this is my first post...
Has anyone successfully converted a blind, internal, staggered feed magazine from 223 rem. to 221 fireball length? I'm converting from 223 rem. to 20 Vartarg and would like a repeater for PD's. Is this easily done, or would I be better off sending it to a 'Smith?
Is feeding reliable also?
Vermist

laportecharlie
07-21-2010, 09:48 AM
I have a model 16 that I had re-chambered from 223 Rem to 221 FB. I could never get it to feed from the magazine and I haven't heard of anyone else having any success. I went with a single shot follower and that gun has been responsible for the demise of many thousands of Prairie Dogs.
For a repeater I have a LH CZ 527 in 223 Rem. I had it re-barreled to 221 FB and changed the magazine housing/trigger guard to the smaller size. The folks at CZ USA were nice enough to exchange a 221 FB magazine for my 223 one. This is a great little "walking gun" and is every bit as accurate as my Savages.
A right handed shooter can buy a CZ 527 in 221 FB right from the factory.
Charlie

Appleseed
07-22-2010, 05:17 PM
Dave Muzz did this with a blind mag s/f and a cz mag insert, check his posts with photos. I had success with it using a center feed det/mag savage altered to a cz mag insert. There are some photos somewhere in a post. After fiddling with the savage retro-fit, would take Charlie's advise and get the cz 527.

vermist
07-22-2010, 09:44 PM
Thankyou for the advice, gentlemen.

I'm getting a Shilen in 20 Vartarg 24", 1 in 12" twist, 1" @ muzzle for about a 12.5 lb "heavy" gun. I may just convert this to single shot.
I'm trying to get ideas for a second lighweight "truck gun"in this caliber, around 7.5 lbs.
Have shot a 221 fireball for about 6 PD seasons ~7500 rounds later, it still shoots <.5 MOA! I was looking forward to frying that barrel this last trip, but we got skunked-three of us only shot 500 rounds in three days, packed up early! That barrel is probably responsible for 6000 PD kills! When I take family/friends with, I can&#39;t get it out of their hands! Though I&#39;m looking forward to the switch to 20 VT!
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Vermist

Appleseed
07-23-2010, 11:53 AM
http://savageshooters.com/SavageForum/index.php/topic,24330.0.html

Here is Dave&#39;s post on the blind mag conversion (using a cz .221fb mag insert for a .17fb). He used a centerfeed action as I did but mine is a det/mag.

My photo link is the last of the posts. The photos may have been removed by now? The site has been off line and that may be what&#39;s giving me an error trying to call them up.

If you had the 221fb feeding through a savage mag, you shouldn&#39;t have any problem with the vt, only a small difference in the shoulder angle/length. Not enough to matter.