Model 11 Trophy Predator Hunter .223 vs. Something else comparable price.

[FiveInADime]

I'm thinking about buying one of these 11-TPH rifles mainly for fun and shooting coyotes and jackrabbits.

How good of a chance is there the rifle will be a GREAT shooter?

With the 1:9" twist can I shoot bullets that will get me to 600-700 yards well?

Does anyone want to but the Nikon scope with the goofy predator reticle from me?

Should I get something else?

I want a tack-driver. Anything less and I will be disappointed, really. Am I expecting to much?

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[adammiddagh]

600-700 seams like a little bit of a stretch for a 223. I would think maybe 400yds for game. Go out farther for target.

If you reload, I would go with something a touch faster, like a 22-250( would not cost much more per round reloaded).

I am sure someone with more knowledge than me will chime in.

[FiveInADime]

600-700 seams like a little bit of a stretch for a 223. I would think maybe 400yds for game. Go out farther for target.

If you reload, I would go with something a touch faster, like a 22-250( would not cost much more per round reloaded).

I am sure someone with more knowledge than me will chime in.

I do reload, and I'm talking only of shooting milk jugs or steel targets at 600-700 yards which we already do with our other centerfire rifles. Just looking for adv opinion on the rifle's capability.

.22-250 does in fact cost much more to reload for me because I already have a nice collection of .223 brass and you're looking at 1.5-2x the powder burned in the 250.

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[FiveInADime]

Anyone have one of these???

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[jonbearman]

Don't they make it with a 1in9 and also 1in7 which will shoot heavy bullets for distance. The 1in9 will be pushing it with less than a 80 grain bullet. You can still do well with a 75/77 grain match bullet or equivalent.

[FiveInADime]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Nibeck02/20160419_201855_zpszwvkxudt.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/Nibeck02/media/20160419_201855_zpszwvkxudt.jpg.html)

Something is missing here...

Can anyone tell me what it is?

[JW]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Nibeck02/20160419_201855_zpszwvkxudt.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/Nibeck02/media/20160419_201855_zpszwvkxudt.jpg.html)

Something is missing here...

Can anyone tell me what it is?

Man you got to scratch that itch you have for sure lol
Have you considered a hog hunter in 223? it is also a 1-9 twist
77 sie bullets should do ok 75 amax maybe 80gr no
Jack

[md7989]

Just an FYI: I sold the Nikon 3-9x40 scope and rings that came on my Savage 6.5 Creedmoor for $210 to a guy locally, and it had the predator reticle. Also had some bites on other forums trying to sell it...some folks like them, so it should sell.

[MasterOfPupets]

Really? I threw the scope and rings onto my 12g because j had nothing better to do with it and assumed it was worthless. Guess I'm pulling that off to sell

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[FiveInADime]

Man you got to scratch that itch you have for sure lol
Have you considered a hog hunter in 223? it is also a 1-9 twist
77 sie bullets should do ok 75 amax maybe 80gr no
Jack
I bought the Trophy Predator Hunter but my NICS got delayed :(.

Just waiting for tomorrow to pick it up.

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[tufrthnails]

Let us know how it shoots. I need something to compete with my cousin and his remi 700 r5 .223 (which shoots lights out after I bed and pillared a BDL stock for him).

[FiveInADime]

Let us know how it shoots. I need something to compete with my cousin and his remi 700 r5 .223 (which shoots lights out after I bed and pillared a BDL stock for him).
If I can't shoot 1/2" or better with handloads at 100 yards a) I'll be very disappointed b) I'll be biding my time until I can order a Criterion barrel in .223AI to replace the factory barrel along with figuring out if I need a stock to make it shoot better.

Most of my guns shoot sub-MOA with some load I've found. And none of them shoot MOA with factory loads.

This is supposed to be a gun that I'm going to shoot A LOT because honestly I don't get my money's worth out of my other guns.

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[tufrthnails]

I'm curious why you went with the Predator hunter instead of the trophy hunter if you are going to swap the barrel and stock anyways? I'm getting consistent .500" to .750" 100 yard groups out of my .270 win with just a boyds stock swap that I installed pillars and bedded the action. I get groups that fall in the .400" range as well, but the norm is 1/2" to 3/4" with hand loads, but with 150gr hornady interlocks from the factory it will shoot in the 1" range consistently.

[FiveInADime]

I'm curious why you went with the Predator hunter instead of the trophy hunter if you are going to swap the barrel and stock anyways? I'm getting consistent .500" to .750" 100 yard groups out of my .270 win with just a boyds stock swap that I installed pillars and bedded the action. I get groups that fall in the .400" range as well, but the norm is 1/2" to 3/4" with hand loads, but with 150gr hornady interlocks from the factory it will shoot in the 1" range consistently.
I only plan on a new barrel I'd the gun doesn't shoot as is.

I like the medium weight barrel and the camo stock. If I get a new barrel I'll get a light varmint contour 24", most likely but hopefully I don't have to. I always liked the 10 Predator but I didn't like the price much. I know that sounds silly when I'm willing to spend more on a barrel later if this doesn't work out but hopefully it does.

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[tufrthnails]

Oh okay no that makes sense I was just curious. I suspect you will be pretty happy with the factory barrel. Both my savage barrels want to be shot dirty. Right around 190 rds I have to decopper it then refoul it. The other is to new not sure how long it is going to shoot before it needs decoppered.

[FiveInADime]

Ready for the range. I've got the +10/-10 shims installed for a net of +16 MOA of elevation. I'm glad I got high rings, the scope bell is about .150" from the barrel and I get a good cheek weld prone, sitting, and offhand.

Scope center is ~1.9" above the bore-axis.

I've got:
- 69gr SMK FGMM
- Hornady Match 75gr BTHP
- Hornady 55gr SP

Hopefully this will give me an idea where to start with hand-loading.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Nibeck02/20160421_120710_zpsw7at4hib.jpg (http://s28.photobucket.com/user/Nibeck02/media/20160421_120710_zpsw7at4hib.jpg.html)

I'm really excited to shoot this rig. Cross your fingers for me, guys.

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[tufrthnails]

That thing is pretty slick looking out of the box! How is the stiffness of the forend of that stock. It looks to be floated a lot better then my TH came from the factory.

[FiveInADime]

That thing is pretty slick looking out of the box! How is the stiffness of the forend of that stock. It looks to be floated a lot better then my TH came from the factory.
It's not stiff by any means. But it is GENEROUSLY free-floated and the tang area is also floated. The trigger also feels like it is set at about 2lbs judging by my other rifles set around 2lbs.

I don't know if I could use a bipod and really load it up, but there is about 1/8" of space under the barrel and a good 1/32 on either side.

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[tufrthnails]

Looks like a good candidate for the Alum arrow or lamp rod stiffening job.

[md7989]

Same stock that came on my 6.5 Creedmoor. It was good enough to shoot 0.7 MOA at 500 yards on steel using a bipod to lightly load it, but as mentioned before it will flex a good bit when you get firm with it and the sides of the channel will contact. I thought about fiddling around and firming up mine but just the B&C M40 route. Good looking setup for sure!!