Ryfulman
05-17-2016, 06:49 AM
The problem with the 140 ELD-M if shooting commercial ammo is OAL. My max OAL for my 10T 6.5cm is 2.860. I measured the 140, 2.820. Its not close enough to the lands, which match rounds need to be. If those were reloads, would like to know how close he set them to the lands. A-max doesn't need to be close to the lands. I tried reloading 308 with A-max close to the lands to see if they would tighten up as I got closer. Got worst the closer I got. Leave them at 2.800 now and shoot great. The A-max will be replaced by the ELD from what hornady told me. All there tips will use the new ones. Notice even the match rounds now use the new tips vs a hollow tip? BC's are even better with tip on.
The new eld projectiles are what's called a hybrid so they have that sexy BC however because the ogive isn't as flat they aren't as sensitive to seating depth and are supposed to be able to handle a 20 thou jump.
The only projectiles I ever used from hornady that were sensitive to seating depth were the 105 grain 243 match. With those ones I had to kiss the lands,luckily the mag on my tc dimension easily accommodate the longer oal.
So I'll admit I'm surprised you had a problem. They were specifically designed and engineered to be less sensitive to seating depth.
As far as the tips go apparently the new ones are melt proof so they are using them on almost everything.
If you haven't already and use a lot of hornady projectiles I recommend getting onto hornady's mailing list and join their little club. It's free to join.
They mail you some reading material which includes what makes each different projectile line special vs the others.
For example they explain at what speed each line was designed to expand properly at. So basically you can fine tune the projectile for the distance you'll be hunting at so when it impacts you'll achieve full expansion and no thru and thru which as we all know can ruin a day easily.
Or if shorter range with a fast cartridge you'll pick the line that made to expand at that particular velocity.
If just punching paper I doubt it makes a difference however when hunting knowing the bullets particular performance characteristics is an important tidbit of info.
With hornady there ain't a one size fits all,which when you think about it is a good idea.
Animals with tougher thicker hides need one that will expand later so you get adequate penetration etc.
Joining their club is free and I think once you do if you ever order from them you get some kind of discount or extra bullets or something.
The new eld projectiles are what's called a hybrid so they have that sexy BC however because the ogive isn't as flat they aren't as sensitive to seating depth and are supposed to be able to handle a 20 thou jump.
The only projectiles I ever used from hornady that were sensitive to seating depth were the 105 grain 243 match. With those ones I had to kiss the lands,luckily the mag on my tc dimension easily accommodate the longer oal.
So I'll admit I'm surprised you had a problem. They were specifically designed and engineered to be less sensitive to seating depth.
As far as the tips go apparently the new ones are melt proof so they are using them on almost everything.
If you haven't already and use a lot of hornady projectiles I recommend getting onto hornady's mailing list and join their little club. It's free to join.
They mail you some reading material which includes what makes each different projectile line special vs the others.
For example they explain at what speed each line was designed to expand properly at. So basically you can fine tune the projectile for the distance you'll be hunting at so when it impacts you'll achieve full expansion and no thru and thru which as we all know can ruin a day easily.
Or if shorter range with a fast cartridge you'll pick the line that made to expand at that particular velocity.
If just punching paper I doubt it makes a difference however when hunting knowing the bullets particular performance characteristics is an important tidbit of info.
With hornady there ain't a one size fits all,which when you think about it is a good idea.
Animals with tougher thicker hides need one that will expand later so you get adequate penetration etc.
Joining their club is free and I think once you do if you ever order from them you get some kind of discount or extra bullets or something.