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Maine-iac
02-09-2016, 09:00 AM
Because the CZ is sooo light and handy the magazine really does not interfere at all. I kind of like the looks of it but everyone has different taste and appreciation for it. There are after market 3 round flush magazines available for the CZ. One in the chamber and three down is plenty for hunting. I am surprised Ruger does not chamber the 7.62x39 in the American and Savage in the Axis.:confused:

futurerider103
02-09-2016, 09:35 AM
I am too. I've noticed that in the past couple months since I've started looking to build mine I've been noticing more and more attention to the 7.62x39 bolt gun. I'm real surprised Savage dropped their Scout but it was expensive for what it is

Newtosavage
02-09-2016, 10:43 AM
Yes, it was expensive for what it is, but I'm still not letting go of mine. :D I balked a little at the price when I bought it. It didn't need the Accustock, or the real metal bottom metal. All those did was weigh down an otherwise handy rifle with a 20" barrel. After stripping those and the iron sights off, I got it down to what a scout rifle should be - about 6 lbs. pre-scope. It's still under 7 lbs. with the 4x scout scope. If I put the iron sights back on, it would be right at 7 lbs.

Ruger and Savage seem to be done with the venerable 7.62x39 caliber. Maybe they see it as outdated. I dunno. Maybe too many associate the round with the SKS/AK and their poor accuracy. Maybe they just think they can sell more rifles in a "newer" caliber like the .300 BO or 6.5 Creedmoor? Who knows. But a Ruger American Ranch in a 7.62x39 for about $400 would be a heluva rifle. So would a Savage Axis in a short action and 18-20" barrel.

Now that I've owned, shot and hunted with one for a while, I am prepared to declare the 7.62x39 the ideal deer and hog hunting caliber for women and youth, and anyone who doesn't enjoy getting kicked by their rifle any harder than they have to. Mine kicks less than my daughter's .243 that she has used with great effect, only she doesn't want to shoot her rifle very much because of the recoil. Had I started her on a 7.62x39, that might not be the case, and the deer she's shot (all within 100 yards) would still be just as dead.

futurerider103
02-09-2016, 10:48 AM
This is my dedicated hunting rifle right now it's a 110e in 270win. The x39 will not be a replacement but it will definitely be a nice alternative for me. And tons cheaper and more pleasant to shoot. Honestly if they made an Axis in 7.62x39 I probably would have bought that.
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Newtosavage
02-09-2016, 11:19 AM
Beautiful stock alright.

When I bought my model 11 in .308, I figured that would be the only bolt-action hunting rifle I'd ever need. Then after carrying it all day for a few weekend hunts (I rifle hunt on my feet and typically cover a lot of ground in a day) I soon realized I wanted a lighter woods rifle. And in most cases, a 200-yard gun was more than enough. There are very few places where I hunt that you can even see more than 200 yards.

The difference between a 6 3/4 lb. rifle you can carry by the action and 8 lb. rifle with a conventional scope is literally night and day on hunts like this. By the end of the season, I carried my 7.62x39 lightweight scout on several hunts and hardly noticed it was there. I've drug it through brush (literally on my hands and knees) after pigs, and shot it from a lot of positions. All I can say is it really grew on me the more I used it.

futurerider103
02-09-2016, 11:21 AM
My .270 weighs in right at 7.5lbs loaded out with ammo and sling. Primarily I sit in a tree or 2 and don't travel more than 2mi

Ol' BW
02-09-2016, 11:26 AM
Futurerider
Where did you get that beautiful stock!

BW

futurerider103
02-09-2016, 11:30 AM
Came from savage with it but slightly uglier. Few hours of sanding and a little stain and it turned out nice. Not to bad for a $130 gun $250 with the Leupold VX 2
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GaCop
02-11-2016, 08:40 AM
I certainly hope you have better luck regarding accuracy from your RSI than I had with mine in 30-06. No matter what I tried, different factory loads, hand loads with different bullet weights, I never could get mine to group better than 2.5" at 100 yards. At 200 and 300 yards it was a joke. I finally sold it in disgust. Sad, was a fine looking rifle to be so inaccurate.

Newtosavage
02-11-2016, 06:54 PM
Thanks. It's a finicky beast alright. After free floating the barrel completely, I can usually get 2", 3-shot groups, but they are always in a vertical line. That barrel is just so whippy that any heat at all and it completely changes POI.

I was thinking about putting the barreled action in another stock anyway - to preserve that pretty full length walnut stock - so I bought a Hogue pillar bedded stock just to experiment with. Same results when free floated as the free-floated walnut full-length stock ( no real surprise ) but then I took a folded piece of neoprene that I cut from an old set of waders, and put it under the barrel, giving it some upward and side-to-side pressure inside the stock.

BAM! .75" group! LOL. All three holes were nearly touching. First time I have seen that from that particular gun.

I cut some pieces to length that could stay in that stock permanently if I want them to, then shot some more groups. Some were again in that 1" territory. I was playing with loads and bullets and seating depth, so I had a lot of variables to consider, but this weekend I'm going to try putting some neoprene shims under the end cap of that factory full length stock and see what happens. From what I can tell, it helps.

I'm not happy with that Hogue stock (love the feel but it's way too heavy) so I'm going to get a Ruger factory plastic stock and shim it, then see what happens. Shimming the walnut stock in any way doesn't make sense to me, since that wood is going to change POI with changes in the weather. But the plastic stock has a chance to hold zero, so it's worth a shot.