Savage Model 5 info required

[2valve]

New member to this forum , so hello to all. Fair while ago i purchased a early model Savage number 5 rifle (have a few early model Savage 22LR's), the serial number is a low two digit number so i assume it's a very early one made ?.Could anyone please shed some light on the bolt handle for me please. Does the bolt handle follow the stock line ?.Could anyone be able to supply some pictures of there number 5 bolt fitted to the rifle side on for comparison please. The rifle also has a set of Parker Hale peep sites fitted which was fitted a very long time ago so i was informed.The rifle does seem to shoot pretty well , but the P.O.A is no where near where the projectile is hitting. Looks like i'm off to the gun armourer to see what the problem is if i cant work it out. I do know one thing that the trigger pull awful, it is so heavy , will have to fit a softer compression spring if they are available ? but will have to wait and see what the P.O.A problem is first before i start to spend any more money on it.

[Mad Dog]

Can't help on the pics as all I have is a model & from that era but the serial number has me interested.

Are you sure it's the serial number and not an assembly marking? Where is it located on the rifle?

[2valve]

Can't help on the pics as all I have is a model & from that era but the serial number has me interested.

Are you sure it's the serial number and not an assembly marking? Where is it located on the rifle?

Hi Mad Dog
Thanks for the reply. Just grabbed the rifle out of the safe and had a look for any marks / stamps .What i have found is as follows: *Savage made in the USA Model 5 in front of the rear sight assembly. *On the L/H side of the barrel side near the rear sight has two stamps and they read: SP in an oval shape stamp mark and a number 18 in a circle stamp mark, these two stamps are near each other.
*Have found the supposedly serial number that the rifle is registered with , this number is on the L/H underside of the action.The wood has to be removed to see this number obviously.

[2valve]

Looks like there's not much info on the Savage Number 5 rifle out there. I'll send an email to Savage Arms to see if they can assist me ,especially with the location of the serial number. I'f they do reply i'll list it down to help the next person looking for information on these rifles.

[Mad Dog]

Your right about them not having a lot of info. They were made in an era where people just bought a 22 for plinking and Savage didn't advertise the 3's, 4's, 5's, 6's and 7's as much as they did with the older rifles.

Sav22 here on the forum has some info on them, I think he kept some model change data on them but as for me I have no info.

[Sav22]

I don't have as much information on bolt guns as I do on the slide actions. I think the 18 in a circle was an inspectors stamp and each inspector had a different number/character. If you gun came from the factory with a peep sight the rear of the receiver would have been cut on the right side to allow the bolt to be swung down and under the sight to allow removal without changing the peep sight. The Parker-Hale PH-16 sight is hinged to swing out of the way to allow the bolt to be removed with out any special machining. I don't think the serial number was factory applied, none I have seen have numbers anywhere under the wood.

The Model 4 & 5 were basically the same actions, just that one fed from a tube and one fed from a clip magazine.

Here are examples of a Model 5 not milled for bolt clearance, a Model 4 milled for a Savage No 105 peep and a Stevens Model 416 milled for the Stevens No 106 sight (note where the safety stamp had to be applied due to the long bolt relief). The later guns that came with the Savage WFC 150 sight would be milled to a length in between these too.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%201922/Savage%20Modell%204%20amp%205%20actions%20001_zpss 0hrpecp.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%201922/Savage%20Modell%204%20amp%205%20actions%20002_zpsj y6sx5od.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%201922/Savage%20Modell%204%20amp%205%20actions%20003_zpsc c1s9feu.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%201922/Savage%20Modell%204%20amp%205%20actions%20005_zps2 ojwltoq.jpg

Some of the odder members of the 3,4,5,6 & 7 family, a Steven with an early Model 3 action and a Stevens with a Model 4 action.
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Stevens2053B20Springfield2084C20001_zps7ensljas.jp g

A couple attempts at a slide action using modified Model 5 actions, these have the same feed design using most of the same parts as the Model 5 and Model 6 .

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%20pumps%20x/Model4basedexp003.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Savage%20pumps%20x/Model4basedexp014T.jpg

This one got a little toasted in a fire at a gunshop that the owner got arrested for setting to try and collect insurance.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Model%205%20slide%20action%20prototype%2001_zpsumu c6ikf.jpg

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Model%205%20slide%20action%20prototype%2002_zpsjmh nsb1b.jpg


Here's a Model 6 based rifle made exclusively for Gamble's (it's so ugly I don't think any other store would have wanted it).

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/bd493f0c-08bb-4a83-bc65-5e831b505b04_zps402cae14.jpg

Here is a Ranger marked version of the Springfield 87M that used a Model 6 action, this one has a plastic trigger guard but I think some of the Springfield marked version have steel guards made to resemble the ones on M1 Garrands. -

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa105/GeneBB/Ranger%20version%2087M%20_zpssz96yubg.jpg

[2valve]

Hi. Big thanks to both of you for replying.
Hi Sav22. Wow, super neat looking rifles. Wish mine was as neat as your top three rifles are.I'm not sure what the story is with the supposedly serial number on my rifle action , it really looks factory done !.When the new digital camera arrives i'll take some pictures for you to show where they are and what they look like. Was a bit strange to have a number stamped where it is, especially when you have to remove the action out of the stock to see the number. Wasn't sure if you where aware of this but here in OZ ,rifles etc must have a serial stamped to have them registered ( just like a motorbike / car etc ). Whats the red tape system over your way for older style of rifles without serial number stamped ?. I'ts a shame regarding the damaged / burnt rifle , more history being damaged .Quote: Here's a Model 6 based rifle made exclusively for Gamble's (it's so ugly I don't think any other store would have wanted it).To me , actually i like the look of it, it's got character !, and as for the scope , it look's likes an early Field Instruments Co of what i can see of it , i have one of these scopes in my archives and another early scope made by Raven , not going to be used so one day i'll sell them off.Please forward rifle onto me when no longer needed or wanted ,thank you !.

[Turbolung]

Hey Buddy..I'm messin round with a model 5 as well. Il share whatever information I can but not able to post pics..I'm trying to mount a scope on mine and this very moment and hoping I get a reply to a post I have about what size screws are used on the side of receiver to mount a side mount scope base..anyway..hope you get what you need and enjoy your model 5