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Dans85
10-24-2015, 11:08 PM
Hello everyone, new guy here. I have recently got bitten by the FFP scope and long range bug. I have a 110 7mm rem mag that will be my (hopefully) LR gun. I have never owned a FFP scope, so to get my feet wet so to speak, I have been looking at the PA, BSA, and Falcon Menace scopes. From what I have read, All three seem to by fairly descent for the given price, but I haven't seen any info on any of them being used on a magnum rifle. Does anyone have any experience with any of them? Thanks for any input.

hafejd30
10-25-2015, 01:02 AM
Some guys on here run the primary arms and have good luck with them. Not sure about the falcon. The BSA I wouldn't trust to hold a zero on a spud gun....but that's just my .02 on that

psharon97
10-25-2015, 11:29 AM
Have you looked at the super sniper scopes?

DrThunder88
10-25-2015, 01:48 PM
I had my Primary Arms 4-14x44mm FFP scope on my .300 Win Mag for a while but switched up to a SWFA SS. I want to say the old web page for the scope said it was "rated" or some such up to .308 Winchester or .30-06, which was one of the reasons for the switch. However, I hadn't and haven't had any problems with it on that rifle or its current host. It suffered through at most 100 rounds of light weight hunting loads in the Win Mag, which is by no means proof that it's magnum-ready, but it is right at home on my .243 Winchester.

The worst things about the scope are the turrets, which are a little soft and indistinct, and the eye relief being a bit finnicky at high magnifications, which is characteristic of many low-dollar scopes. I got another of the same scopes more recently and was pleased to find the turrets were a bit more positive in their clicks, though the hashmarks were still misaligned.

Oh and newsflash: The 4-14x44mm FFP scope with the ACSS Orion reticle is on sale for $199.99 with promo code HUNTING. It comes bundled with a set of rings as well.

Rosco
10-25-2015, 04:15 PM
Oh and newsflash: The 4-14x44mm FFP scope with the ACSS Orion reticle is on sale for $199.99 with promo code HUNTING. It comes bundled with a set of rings as well.

I would buy the standard Mil-Dot in a heartbeat for $199.00, the ACSS Reticle gives me a seizure.

Dans85
10-25-2015, 05:05 PM
I have looked at the SWFA SS scopes, but without ever owning a fixed power scope, I'm not sure if I want to go that route. This will be an all purpose rifle of sorts. It is my primary elk hunting rifle as well as a long range target rifle. If it was solely a target rifle, I would probably go with a 20x SS in a heartbeat. I think I would have to agree with Rosco. Their Orion reticle is a little much. I would much rather have a mil dot or hash mark reticle like on the BSA.

LongRange
10-25-2015, 07:09 PM
What is your price range?

Dans85
10-25-2015, 07:49 PM
Trying to stay in the $300 range. But, when funds permit If I could find a Viper PST FFP for a descent price, I might be able to stretch a little.

LongRange
10-25-2015, 10:22 PM
If i was you id save and get the pst because if thats the scope you want you wont be satisfied with anything else... check bearbasin.com they have good deals on trade ins and used optics.

Kadams1563
10-25-2015, 10:25 PM
Dans85 if you are military or Leo then definitely go with vortex. Just call them and they will hook you up.

LongRange
10-25-2015, 10:31 PM
Dans85 if you are military or Leo then definitely go with vortex. Just call them and they will hook you up.


Never even thought about this...bearbasin gives huge dicos for LEO and MIL too.

Dans85
10-25-2015, 10:43 PM
Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately I've never served. I'm hoping to find a good deal on a viper, but as of now I haven't seen anything pop up yet. I did a little research on some of the fixed power SWFA scopes. I am really intrigued by them in several aspects. Being a mechanic by trade I really appreciate the simplicity of a fixed power scope. Not to mention that every post that I've read about them says that the glass quality on a fixed power is quite a bit better than a variable power scope in the same price range, and a few posts are comparing the glass to scopes in the $1000 range. As said before, it will be on my elk/ target rifle, so I am seriously considering either a 10x or 12x as kind of an all around scope. I have noticed that I tend to stay on 10x-12x now as it is. The main thing I am looking for is something that will be within my budget and will still allow me to reach 1000 yds and be able to handle magnum recoil.

Dans85
10-25-2015, 10:52 PM
If i was you id save and get the pst because if thats the scope you want you wont be satisfied with anything else... check bearbasin.com they have good deals on trade ins and used optics.

I'm not necessarily dead set on a viper, but that seems to be about the best FFP scope for under $1000.

sixonetonoffun
10-25-2015, 11:21 PM
The SIII listed in the classifieds would do all that n some. Better rep for durability.

Kadams1563
10-25-2015, 11:49 PM
If you go with SWFA get the 10x mil/mil.

foxx
10-25-2015, 11:53 PM
Depending on terrain and vegetation, I would shy away from 10x or more fixed power if there's a chance you'll be hunting anything close (0-100 yards), but that's just me.

Dans85
10-26-2015, 08:58 PM
After a lot of thinking and weighing the options, I think I'm going to save up for a Viper PST 4-16x50 FFP. So far it seems to be a really good value for the given price.

LongRange
10-26-2015, 09:14 PM
Good idea...call the guys at bear basin they might have a trade in within your price range.

Dans85
10-26-2015, 09:42 PM
Will do, Thanks for the help guys.

Newsshooter
10-29-2015, 12:50 AM
I've got four of the BSA FFP Mil Mil scopes on 22's, I've dialed them up and down a bunch shooting out to 300M and they have held up well. Don't think the recoil should be an issue.