Today's Pop Quiz!

[J.Baker]

What's wrong with this picture?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v632/MrFurious45833/Gun%20Stuff/DSC00788.jpg

[XL105]

Yobuck is a f in idiot

[mike21]

Off center flash holes?

Oops, beat by 1 minute.:smug:

[LongRange]

they shorted you 7 rounds

[yobuck]

they shorted you 7 rounds

Damm, you beat me to it.

[J.Baker]

Yep!

This was just some range brass I picked up recently and discovered this quirk after running them through my pin tumbler. Not a single firing pin hole is centered in the 43 cases I have.

From what I've been able to find online this stuff just hit the American Market via Walmart in early May of this year, and everyone's reporting that most all of the firing pin holes are off-center, and by how much varies from piece to piece. This is the Perfecta brand ammo which is made by Fiocchi in Italy and imported/marketed by Tulammo USA. Apparently it's pretty cheap ammo, even cheaper than Winchester White Box, and is offered in 223, 308, .380 Auto, 9mm, .40S&W and .45 Auto.

Hadn't seen it mentioned here yet so thought I'd post it up before someone goes out and buys a boat-load with the mindset of reusing the brass for precision reloading. Some have reported that they've broken several decapping pins while trying to remove the primers, but I had no such experience using my Lee Decapping die. Those who have reloaded it say it doesn't present a noticeable problem for plinking and hunting loads, but I would imagine the off-set holes would definitely have an effect on ignition consistency causing your S.D. and E.S. to go up which isn't conducive to precision work.

[big honkin jeep]

Thanks for the tip Bossman.

[savage2014]

I thought they were minions...


That explains why I can't get consistency with them on my savage axis II XP in 223

[243LPR]

Doesn't look like "Perfecta" to me.

[eddiesindian]

defently, thks for posting. its been yrs since ive picked up range brass in 223. ive purchased several thousand of once fired lc unprocessed and haven't pic,d up any range brass in 223 since. Im glad I spotted this thread though.
I am however on the prowl for some range brass for my father in law lolololo

[eddiesindian]

Doesn't look like "Perfecta" to me.

olololololo

[J.Baker]

I usually don't bother to reload .223 because all I had was my AR15 and I could usually find plinking ammo for about the same price as it would cost me to reload. But since I picked up an Axis in .223 the other week I figured I'd scrounge up some brass and work up a load to see how accurate the factory barrel is.

[GaCop]

Flash hole not centered! +1!

[GaCop]

Yep!

This was just some range brass I picked up recently and discovered this quirk after running them through my pin tumbler. Not a single firing pin hole is centered in the 43 cases I have.

From what I've been able to find online this stuff just hit the American Market via Walmart in early May of this year, and everyone's reporting that most all of the firing pin holes are off-center, and by how much varies from piece to piece. This is the Perfecta brand ammo which is made by Fiocchi in Italy and imported/marketed by Tulammo USA. Apparently it's pretty cheap ammo, even cheaper than Winchester White Box, and is offered in 223, 308, .380 Auto, 9mm, .40S&W and .45 Auto.

Hadn't seen it mentioned here yet so thought I'd post it up before someone goes out and buys a boat-load with the mindset of reusing the brass for precision reloading. Some have reported that they've broken several decapping pins while trying to remove the primers, but I had no such experience using my Lee Decapping die. Those who have reloaded it say it doesn't present a noticeable problem for plinking and hunting loads, but I would imagine the off-set holes would definitely have an effect on ignition consistency causing your S.D. and E.S. to go up which isn't conducive to precision work.

I've used quite a bit of the Perfecta ammo in my AR-15 since the beginning of the year and have only encountered a few cases that had off set flash holes. My 11.5" CAR loves this ammo shooting it into 2" at 100 yards and yielding a velocity average of 2560 fps in the short barrel. I've reloaded the brass a number of times and it is performing well. I guess later batches have gotten sloppy on quality control.

[icker96]

I bought a few hundred rounds of perfecta in .223 and have reloaded it for both my bolt action and my AR-15. I have not noticed the flash holes being that bad. An occasional one off center, but definitely the exception and not the rule. It has stood up to reloading well, and seems to shoot really well. My groups have been good in both rifles, and the chronograph has shown good consistency. The next time I need more AR-15 brass, I will buy another box of perfecta and reuse the brass.

[Iowa Fox]

Thanks for the heads up on the headstamp. I pickup a lot of good range brassand most is darn good stiff. Those holes will break decapping pins and bend the decapping rods.

[devildogandboy]

i hate quizzes, i'm no good at them! they don't have primers!LOL

Bruce

[DrThunder88]

At first glance I thought I was looking at parts for a C-3P0 as played by Marty Feldman.

[Twinsen]

Perfecta is manufactured by Fiocchi in Italy and imported by Tula.

I've had a squib and a double charge in their 9mm.
I've had bad flash holes in Fiocchi 223 like what you have there.

I'm not a Fiocchi kind of guy.