Savage 111 LRH 25-05 short throat?

[10gaugemag]

Picked me up a 111 Long Range Hunter a month or so ago and while I was working on some loads I notice none of my 4 different loads will even come close to the 3.250 COAL that is standard for the cartridge. Most loads are running from 3.140 to 3.180", I know this probably wont matter one bit but wonder if I could grab a bunch of velocity by having the throat cut a bit longer or would the gains be minimal?? Has anyone else noticed short throats or is the 3.250" COAL a bit optimistic and most 25's have a shorter throat?

[Robinhood]

Sounds short to me. The book says 3.250 COAL.

[J.Baker]

Have you done a chamber cast or had it bore scoped? Those would be my first two recommendations to find out exactly what you have before you start modifying anything.

[Hotolds442]

After just having lithotripsy done, this bore scope talk brings me pain Jim.

I would at least do a chamber cast to make sure that the throat is actually done properly and proceed from there. One minor burr can affect your COAL considerably.

[J.Baker]

I would at least do a chamber cast to make sure that the throat is actually done properly and proceed from there. One minor burr can affect your COAL considerably.

My thoughts exactly

[BobT]

My 111 .25/06 package gun had the same trouble, I did a chamber cast and it was indeed a short throat. I simply loaded my ammo to fit and the gun remains to this day the most accurate factory barreled rifle I have ever owned. The 115 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip was it's bullet of choice and I was able to get plenty of velocity, don't have my records in front of me but I shot it quite a bit out to 550 yards and if the wind didn't get me it would group in the 2-3 inch range for 5 shots.

Did very well on pronghorns too!

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/rltjlt/Wyoming2012109.jpg

[10gaugemag]

My 111 .25/06 package gun had the same trouble, I did a chamber cast and it was indeed a short throat. I simply loaded my ammo to fit and the gun remains to this day the most accurate factory barreled rifle I have ever owned. The 115 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip was it's bullet of choice and I was able to get plenty of velocity, don't have my records in front of me but I shot it quite a bit out to 550 yards and if the wind didn't get me it would group in the 2-3 inch range for 5 shots.

Did very well on pronghorns too!

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/rltjlt/Wyoming2012109.jpg
Yes my gun does shoot very good indeed as well. I have 4 groups with 2 different bullets and all measure under an inch with 3 of the groups between 1/2 and 3/4". May still have a smith check it out.

[10gaugemag]

Just measured on of the Ballistic Tips I have loaded and came up with 3.1895", not as short as I had thought.