Boyds Cheaping Out on Us?

[foxx]

Guys, the escutcheon serves no practical role whatsoever. It is merely a trim piece like trim molding around a door frame.

Use lamp rod (or something similar in dimension) for your pillars and drill the center of the escutcheon out so it is slightly larger than the OD of the pillar. Cut your pillar long enough to PASS THRU the escutcheon and epoxy it into the wood, not the escutcheon. Done this way, the action screw never touches the escutcheon. It could be made of Silly Putty and have no effect whatsoever on the pillar and bedding job. Once assembled, the screw heads cover the pillars and the opening in the escutcheon, so even if the hole for the pillar is cut a little sloppy or too large so there is some space between the escutcheon and the OD of the pillar, it can't be seen.

Seriously, it is a non issue.

i.e. don't use a washer or the escutcheon or ANYTHING between the bottom of the pillar and the top of the head of the action screw. Just let the head of the screw butt up against the bottom of the pillar.

[delta1]

The only problem I can see with the plastic ones, is that the taper fitted one may exert pressure side ways and into the stock. And it will give more the tighter you you make the bolt.


Well, until a recent event, the plant totally destroyed by fire, if one purchased a lam stock its a 90% sure bet it was made using Rutland plywood.

The de-lamination ( cracking) is somewhat of a mystery to me. I've fitted/bedded/pillared quite a few lam stocks over the years, three of my own(Boyds) and none of them have cracked. It only a WAG but other things may be coming into play as the cause.

The plastic escutcheons (bushings) have been standard fare for years in both aftermarket and factory stocks. Two examples..
http://i62.tinypic.com/28a3rr.jpg

On the left, one from a '90s era Savage factory stock, on the right the one from the Boyds pictured.

I don't care for them either soooo.....
http://i62.tinypic.com/2eq9us4.jpg

Bill

[Dimwit]

^ oops. Sorry.

[FW Conch]

+1 on what foxx said :-)

[wbm]

Perhaps I have been "lucky". Have had several Boyd's stocks over the last few years. Never had any "delamination", cracks or failure of any kind. To me they look good, and perform well so I will just keep on being a customer. The only problem I ever had was they mistakenly sent me an Axis prototype stock on one occasion and it did not bolt up correctly. Called them and within three days I had a replacement and they paid for me to ship the prototype back. Worked for me.


+2 on what foxx said. Lamp rods work great if they are installed correctly.

[john800]

Are the pro varmints that are prone to cracking only the painted ones or is it the stained ones as well?

[foxx]

All of the laminates. I assume a solid walnut would not be like that. But who wants that style in Walnut? One the other hand, if walnut won't split, you could try it and just paint it black or whatever. Might cost a little more. Me, I would not worry about it. Just expect it to split and then bed it and reinforce it so it doesn't split again. Or reinforce it before it does. I dont know any better stock or stock "blank" that can be made so shootable for so little money, time and effort.

[missed]

Mine has cracked. But it's a drop box mag model. I'm fixing to carve out the entire center section and either mill a bedding block to replace from the back of the action to the barrel nut.

I keep thinking about building the bedding block, trigger guard, and bottom metal all as one piece......

[DrThunder88]

That'd be a heck of a project! Let us know how it goes it you do it.

[missed]

I'll be on the bedding block tonight, hopefully I'll have it done so I can shoot it this weekend. I need to finish load development so I can load to go pop some prairie dogs.

[BillPa]

Just expect it to split and then bed it and reinforce it so it doesn't split again. Or reinforce it before it does

The ACs I bought for each of my three grandson were reinforced from the factory....

https://s3.amazonaws.com/savagefiles/firearms/models/900/qbssLlkZ2_d90763a3a4cc13c2522f466b9898b11b.png
Those two black dots aren't beauty marks! They're dowels glued in across the grain to prevent splitting. Some of my 600 Remingtons have brass pins in them, the 375-458 Classics had dowels.

The same thing can be done invisibly by routing a slot crossways internally side to side then imbedding the threaded shank of a #6-8 machine screw just under flush in Acraglas, Devcon or JB-JB Quick.

Bill

[missed]

It has begun.....http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/08/8a753ea0afc16cd4ce0cb6e0fa4008b1.jpg

[DrThunder88]

Can't wait to see the finished product!

[missed]

Some headway....http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/09/1b202b6a986e37df2c9b7f2a79a5b822.jpg

[missed]

More headway.....


http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/09/599c8c5e5a4715e6072b9e69fcfbeebf.jpg

http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/04/09/349f0629137158b7e09768af87b7fa08.jpg

[silverbullet4x4]

Forgive the newbie question, but considering this is potentially an issue, would you still purchase a new Boyd's stock? Does any of this have to do with chambering?

[foxx]

YES!!!! They are good stocks. For the money, nothing compares. There are certainly better made and better designed stocks out there, but for typical hunting and casual target shooting, they are practically "free". They certainly beat the heck out of Factory plastic stocks. If you plan to bed them, I don't see any point in getting anything different unless you plan to do competitive shooting with it.

It has nothing to do with chambering.

[missed]

What foxx said you can't beat the price. Problem is not enough material between the action and bottom metal. Putting solid hardwood in there within the laminate would work better. I like the aluminum blocks. I hate bedding actions. I would buy another one again. Closest other stocks that I would buy are in the $500 range, so I would do it all over again.

[DrThunder88]

I suppose I'd agree. Even though they are ostensibly ready to use right out of the box, to me they are incomplete. There's no problem with selling incomplete stocks, SSS and MDT do this exclusively, I just wish Boyds wouldn't charge more for doing less, which has been something of a pattern of late.

[wbm]

would you still purchase a new Boyd's stock?

Yes.