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reynoldsfamily3
12-24-2014, 02:12 PM
The 185 Juggernaut is a great accuracy bullet, but as part of the Target lineup, has a thicker jacket on it compared to the Hunting bullets. The thicker jackets will prevent the expansion from occurring that our hunting bullets will provide. this is why we do not recommend any of the Target or Tactical bullets for hunting applications.

I am surprised that a "Tactical" bullet would not be a good hunting round. Isn't something "Tactical" designed to hunt humans? Most humans are smaller than a lot of the game we are after.

Corey Schwanz
12-26-2014, 04:59 PM
The Tactical bullets are designed with our thicker jackets to hold up better in "tactical scenarios" (rapid fire creating hot barrels, shooting through windows, etc). Its the thick jacket that prevents expansion from occurring and why we don't recommend them as we prefer our hunting bullets to penetrate into the chest cavity of the animals, then expand and fragment to cause the most internal damage. The thicker jacketed bullets will tend to zip through and not give the expansion we want to see.

jersurf101
12-28-2014, 09:47 AM
I have used 168gr VLD hunting bullets in my .308 win trophy hunter xp on two deer this year. The first was a small 8 point at 150 yards broadside. I hit this deer a little far back. The berger nicked a rib on the way in and spun laterally. Not the biggest exit hole and the buck ran about 75 yards. Massive internal damage with the lungs, liver, and some guts pulverized.

The second was a doe at roughly 30 yards. The VLD broke both front legs and obliterated the heart. Seemed like the bullet is pretty tough to me. The exit hole was akin to Gacop's. My only complaint would be too much damage, Sierra GK's let me eat closer to the hole. This bullet is the most accurate I have found in my Model 11.

Orr89rocz
12-29-2014, 09:59 AM
The Tactical bullets are designed with our thicker jackets to hold up better in "tactical scenarios" (rapid fire creating hot barrels, shooting through windows, etc). Its the thick jacket that prevents expansion from occurring and why we don't recommend them as we prefer our hunting bullets to penetrate into the chest cavity of the animals, then expand and fragment to cause the most internal damage. The thicker jacketed bullets will tend to zip through and not give the expansion we want to see.

Makes sense. I wasnt sure how much thicker it was. I read some match bullets were to thin to be used for hunting and would fragment. Figured the tactical could work better. Guess i'll look into one of the vld hunting versions or switch guns. I just love how nice these bullets shoot out of this gun all the way to 1100 yards so far

Luke45
01-01-2015, 04:41 PM
Makes sense. I wasnt sure how much thicker it was. I read some match bullets were to thin to be used for hunting and would fragment. Figured the tactical could work better. Guess i'll look into one of the vld hunting versions or switch guns. I just love how nice these bullets shoot out of this gun all the way to 1100 yards so far

just use the 185 classic hunter it's the same bullet just lighter jacket