7mm08 Accuracy

[LongRange]

Does the bullet fit into the muzzle of the barrel?
I realize this is a long shot but could the barrel be over sized (bored incorrectly)?

Kind of what I'm thinking maybe the barrel is shot out if he bought it used

[LongRange]

Try some Speer 130 grainers or Hornady 139s. Get some IMR4064. Very middle of the road stable powder. Go back to the basic standard OAL. If you can't get them to shoot there is a problem. If you can get them to shoot then start tweaking ONE variable at a time. You have too many things going on to draw any conclusions.
Just MHO.

Good advise here too

[NVBighorn]

I bought a 7mm-08 Axis a year ago. It has been the easiest gun I own to get to shoot decently. It shot one inch groups right out of the box using Remington factory 140 grain when I was breaking in the barrel.

[LongRange]

Gotta love factory savages when it comes to outta the box accuracy and the simplistic design of them.

[gunrack]

Was able to pick up some imr8350 this morning now just have to get time to work up some loads.

[LongRange]

I think youll find the 4350 right on the money...if you have cci 200 primers start with those and .002 under loaded neck size for neck tension.

[gunrack]

I think youll find the 4350 right on the money...if you have cci 200 primers start with those and .002 under loaded neck size for neck tension.

Will do. Thanks for the help. Will let you know how she does.

[LongRange]

gunrack please do im interested to see/hear how it shoots.

[mudpig]

Without a lot more info on what your rifle specs/ammo specs/scope & mounts it's hard to say.....however, I have to agree with some of the other posters, that my 7-08 was one of the easiest to work loads up for. Factory 140gr fodder shot inside of 1.5" @ 100yds. Winchester brass and primers with Remington Cor-loks (140gr) over 47gr of W760 .030 off the lands printed .75" and Barnes 140gr TSX over 48gr of W760 .050 off the lands printed .348" groups all at 100yds. Let us know how things work out. Deffinately would recommend scrubbing your bore really well and see if it might be oversized or shot out (no rifling left).

[Rooster 50]

Gotcha...try some nosler and maybe some sierra game kings and skip the RL-17....a lotta guys claim the RL-17 gives them problems with drastic temp changes...I personally have never experienced the temp issues with the RL line of powders. And im sure you know this but once that riffle shoots tiny groups dont clean it if your close to a hunt.

RL-17 is not the same as the other reloader powders. You are correct that some of the others especially 22 are VERY temp sensitive. RL-17 is not made in the same factory or by the same process I use it a lot to load for my 300winmag and 3 others. None of us has had any temp related issues.

[LongRange]

RL-17 is not the same as the other reloader powders. You are correct that some of the others especially 22 are VERY temp sensitive. RL-17 is not made in the same factory or by the same process I use it a lot to load for my 300winmag and 3 others. None of us has had any temp related issues.

I run RL-22 in my 300wm and haven't had any temp issues with it...I guess I'll have to test it like I did the RL-17 to verify. Also it don't get as cold here as it does where a lot of you guys live so that may be part of it.

[Rooster 50]

I run RL-22 in my 300wm and haven't had any temp issues with it...I guess I'll have to test it like I did the RL-17 to verify. Also it don't get as cold here as it does where a lot of you guys live so that may be part of it.

My problem with rl22 was not with cold but with heat. I was at a varmint silhouette shoot a few years ago shooting a 25-06 imp and had zeroed at 300 meters at 7am. @ approx 55 degrees.

I shot at 11am the temp was close to 80 degrees at that time. My POI had changed by close to 6in. I switched to H4350 and this problem virtually disapeared.

[LongRange]

My problem with rl22 was not with cold but with heat. I was at a varmint silhouette shoot a few years ago shooting a 25-06 imp and had zeroed at 300 meters at 7am. @ approx 55 degrees.

I shot at 11am the temp was close to 80 degrees at that time. My POI had changed by close to 6in. I switched to H4350 and this problem virtually disapeared.

Man thats huge...i havent have that issue with the RL-22 but now that you have said that im going to do a little testing like i did with the RL-17...put one round in the sun one round in my truck and one in my lunch box on an ice pak for 5mins then shoot all 3 rounds back to back at 200yds...ill post up with the results.

[gunrack]

Had a chance to shoot a few rounds today but it was not ideal conditions at all. Temp was 55 degrees and cross wind at 8 gusting to 11mph. Trying to upload pictures right now.

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Didn't take enough bullets but there is nothing there anyway unless someone can tell me what's up.

[LongRange]

personally id load up the 150g nosler load at 44.8 45 45.2 with a different primer....id shoot 3 each at .005 off the lands and 3 each at .010 off and see what happens...the first 9 shots are going to tell you if you need more or less powder the second 9 will tell you if your seating depth needs to be changed...the raeson i say a different primer is because it dont look the WLR are going to work and also because ive had my biggest ES's using winchester primers in everything ive tried them in...personally my best results have been with CCI primers.

[gunrack]

personally id load up the 150g nosler load at 44.8 45 45.2 with a different primer....id shoot 3 each at .005 off the lands and 3 each at .010 off and see what happens...the first 9 shots are going to tell you if you need more or less powder the second 9 will tell you if your seating depth needs to be changed...the raeson i say a different primer is because it dont look the WLR are going to work and also because ive had my biggest ES's using winchester primers in everything ive tried them in...personally my best results have been with CCI primers.


Thanks LongRange, the 150's clearly shot the best but I didn't know where to go from there. I had one of the primers snap on me today and I just loaded them last night. They look a little discolored compared to the brass. I have several fresh boxes of the CCI's and will load up some of those. I have already thrown the Winchesters out after they snapped on me. The primer pockets were good and clean.

[gunrack]

Ive found the lee book lists loads quite a bit higher than most of the bullet makers books but I also think the bullet makers load date is conservative. The nosler book is right about where the lee book is so personally I think your ok using the lee book just work up slow if your getting toward the max loads. Also like I said I think your riffle will preform better with a little slower burning powder. Key holing is usually caused by not enough velocity, gas escaping from one side of the barrel or shooting to heavy a bullet for the barrel, and im sure there are a few others. Try cleaning the barrel real good it you havent and if it continues have a smith bore scope the barrel or replace it.

Also you said the riffle is only a year old? Did you buy it new or used?

Yes I bought it new.

[gunrack]

The Lee book has the max load at 46.5 of the IMR4350. So I have a ways to go if I have to.

[LongRange]

Thanks LongRange, the 150's clearly shot the best but I didn't know where to go from there. I had one of the primers snap on me today and I just loaded them last night. They look a little discolored compared to the brass. I have several fresh boxes of the CCI's and will load up some of those. I have already thrown the Winchesters out after they snapped on me. The primer pockets were good and clean.

You say snapped? You mean they popped off when you were priming your cases?

I used federal primers for a long time then all the sudden started having fliers and inconsistent groups with known loads so my buddy gave me a 100 cci200s and a 100cci250 and said try these so i did and have been running them for the last couple of years...i may have just gotten a bad batch of fed210s and fed 215s i dont know but i like the ccis. I also never seen the need to pay twice as much for bench rest primers until i bought a box a couple of weeks ago,ive shot 150 of the cci br2s and am pretty impressed so far but ill let the crony tell how consistent they are this weekend.
After you shoot those loads let us know how it worked out.

[gunrack]

You say snapped? You mean they popped off when you were priming your cases?

I used federal primers for a long time then all the sudden started having fliers and inconsistent groups with known loads so my buddy gave me a 100 cci200s and a 100cci250 and said try these so i did and have been running them for the last couple of years...i may have just gotten a bad batch of fed210s and fed 215s i dont know but i like the ccis. I also never seen the need to pay twice as much for bench rest primers until i bought a box a couple of weeks ago,ive shot 150 of the cci br2s and am pretty impressed so far but ill let the crony tell how consistent they are this weekend.
After you shoot those loads let us know how it worked out.

Snapped as in didn't go bang. Primer was dented good but it never popped I guess snapped was not the right word.