Scope Mounting Question?

[evangorp]

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So I mounted my SS scope on my 11VT tonight, and I just want opinions on if the scope is too high? I'm afraid if I go any lower the bolt handle will rub on the scope. Would a triad stock pack help bring up the cheek weld to help with this situation?

[evangorp]

Here's a picture of the bolt handle!

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[foxx]

Too high. I would want the scope as low as possible, just off the barrel. Cheek weld is only 1 consideration. The other is the affects on bullet trajectory and the worsening affects of any cant you might introduce when firing. Nice scope mounted unnecessarily high on a nice rifle. And, there's no advantage to the high mount, only potential problems. If it were me, I'd get lower mounts.

IF the bolt handle rubs, get a different handle. I have never had that problem with my SS's, and I mount them low.

[evangorp]

Too high. I would want the scope as low as possible, just off the barrel. Cheek weld is only 1 consideration. The other is the affects on bullet trajectory and the worsening affects of any cant you might introduce when firing. Nice scope mounted unnecessarily high on a nice rifle. And, there's no advantage to the high mount, only potential problems. If it were me, I'd get lower mounts.

IF the bolt handle rubs, get a different handle. I have never had that problem with my SS's, and I mount them low.

These mounts are weaver highs, would mediums bring it down enough or should I go low's? Do the aftermarket bolt handles angle down more? I am unfamiliar with what is out there! New to this form of shooting, but excited to learn!

[foxx]

1. Measure your current clearance from the bottom of the scope to the top of barrel.
2. Compare the ring heights from Weaver.
3. If the difference in ring height for the Highs and lows are less than the current gap between scope and barrel, go with low. Otherwise, go medium.

I don't think the bolt handle will hit the scope if lowered. It might leave too little room for comfort of your fingers/hand. If so, use the palm of your open hand to operate the bolt. A longer bolt handle will allow easier bolt lift due to increased leverage. It will also move the end of the handle beyond the outer edgeof the scope so it may be "grabbed" without pinching fingers.

[evangorp]

Are the weaver mounts ok, or should I look for a scope rail?

[foxx]

Weaver mounts are likely to be okay, as long as they are not $5 mounts. I don't know about them, though. A rail is nice because it allows you to place scope anywhere forward or back as necessary for your eye relief needs. (Sometimes it is hard to make 2 piece mounts fit shorter scopes on a long action. Yours is a short action, though, so you may be alright regardless. ) If you didn't already have 2 piece mounts, I'd suggest a rail. As it is, don't worry about it if the bases are of decent quality.

[AveragEd]

I just installed a Leupold 6.5-20x 49mm AO VX-3 target scope on my 12BVSS in Leupold bases and medium dual-dovetail rings. The objective lens just clears the barrel and the bolt handle clears the ocular lens with room to spare.

Ed

[evangorp]

Weaver mounts are likely to be okay, as long as they are not $5 mounts. I don't know about them, though. A rail is nice because it allows you to place scope anywhere forward or back as necessary for your eye relief needs. (Sometimes it is hard to make 2 piece mounts fit shorter scopes on a long action. Yours is a short action, though, so you may be alright regardless. ) If you didn't already have 2 piece mounts, I'd suggest a rail. As it is, don't worry about it if the bases are of decent quality.

Yeah the mounts I have came with the gun so I am sure they aren't' more than $5 each, I will probably see what rails I can get locally

[foxx]

EGW are fairly inexpensive and very popular here. Get Picatinney style, rather than weaver style. Picatinney has slightly wider slots, allows for either type of mounts

[evangorp]

So my inner mathematical nerd came out and I did some calculating to determine the height of ring to look at, please look at my math and see if it makes sense!

1"=25.4mm
EGW Rail=.4" or 10.16mm
OD of objective on SS scope= 49.5mm

So here's the math:
49.5/2=24.75mm(center of scope), add 3mm for lens cover and you get 27.75, subtract the 10.16mm for the height of the rail and that leaves you with 17.59mm or .693"

Meaning I need to find a scope with a center height of .693", most don't go down this low, so far the best combo I can find for this setup would be Burris Medium Zee Rings at .78"

Does this make sense or am I computing incorrectly, I think this may be as low as I can feasibly get it. This should set it roughly 5.2mm off the barrel, right now it is sitting 12mm off the barrel!

Edit:
The more I calculate the more I confuse myself if I stay with weaver mounts and go Burris it would drop the scope, 4.72mm, but if I drop the rings and increase the thickness of the base by 5mm, it would be a wash. The weaver mounts are half as thick as the egw rail?????? I think my problem is I am not factoring for the barrel not being the same height as the action, it drops away.

[foxx]

LOL I always get confused trying to figure that garbage out. Ain't worth it. Buy an EGW picatinny rail and quality low rings. If the scope hits the barrel when installed, return them and get the next higher size.

[evangorp]

Thats what I am starting to think, or take the darn thing to Sportsmans Warehouse and have them open packages until I find one I like! That would make them happy

[Jhoover1973]

How is the eye relief the way it is currently mounted?

[evangorp]

From checking it last night it seems to be set right, need to check it outside sometime this weekend to see if I need to move it back.

[Steelhead]

Are the weaver mounts ok, or should I look for a scope rail?
I use weaver rings just like yours, never any problems with them.
As for the mounts, I personally like the weaver or EGW rails better.

I'd try lower rings, you have lots of room to drop the scope a bit.
I'd look at mediums with the factory mounts.
A rail and low rings is usually a safe bet, clears my varmint barrel and 50mm scope with reg and 20 MOA rail.

[evangorp]

Think I may try the TPS rail and the TPS Super Low rings, this combo would be $110 from Midway. Do you think this would work?

[foxx]

I would ask if the Super Low rings can be returned for the low's if too low.

[evangorp]

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Just thought I would post an update. After running multiple scenarios through calculators online I came to the conclusion that using the weaver mounts and using burris medium height zee rings, it would allow me to get the scope as low as possible. After putting the Butler scope caps on I have about 2.5mm clearance between the scope and the barrel! The bolt handle clears the eyepiece with 2mm to spare, no rubbing! Thanks for the guidance[emoji1]

[Steelhead]

Looks a LOT better!