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limige
05-29-2014, 12:48 AM
Ok he just said a caldwell rest which leaves the door wide open.

Definitely wonder about the overspin. I had ordered a 1:9 22-250 but changed my mind and have the 1:12 now.

scope eye
05-29-2014, 06:27 AM
Ok he just said a caldwell rest which leaves the door wide open.

Definitely wonder about the overspin. I had ordered a 1:9 22-250 but changed my mind and have the 1:12 now.

With that 12 twist, if you wanted to go heavier, you can still shoot those 69gr Sierra's, due to they unique with there very short bearing surface, same thing goes for the 77gr 38gr-to-40gr of IMR 4350 or RL17 for both bullets, and you are rockin and rollin, that will put you around 3400 to 3600 FPS and that is enough to stabilize them.

Dean

limige
05-29-2014, 07:28 PM
Good to know. Is that both match kings?
Ever shoot a deer with one? Id like to work up a 22-250 deer load. Debating about which bullet. 50# gr tsx 60 partition or possibly something else.

scope eye
05-29-2014, 07:41 PM
Yes the Match kings the 69gr are no problem to get up to speed, the 77gr you will have to run them on the hot side, nothing to serious that makes for a pretty versatile rig.

Dean

stomp442
05-29-2014, 07:52 PM
The 65gr game king is an excellent performer on deer. I would imagine the match king would work excellent as well.

Luke45
05-29-2014, 11:16 PM
Good to know. Is that both match kings?
Ever shoot a deer with one? Id like to work up a 22-250 deer load. Debating about which bullet. 50# gr tsx 60 partition or possibly something else.

I've killed quite a few pigs with 69 gr matchkings out of a 223 when I lived in Texas, they flattened out like a pan cake and hit really hard. I wouldn't think twice about a ribcage or neck shot with them on a deer, just would avoid a shoulder shot on a deer 200+ lbs.

And to what stomp said, I've heard great things about the 65 gr Gamekings, probably would be a better deer bullet at 22-250 velocities

limige
05-29-2014, 11:20 PM
Ok..I eyed up the gk's but wasnt sure if they have a longer bearing surface than the mk's.
sierra says both need faster twist barrels but I've heard the 69 gr mk before. I wondered about the gk.

stomp442
05-30-2014, 12:40 AM
12 twist will shoot them fine, trust me. My factory 12 twist savage barrels will one hole the 65GK and 69MK under 37gr of Reloader 17.

limige
05-30-2014, 02:50 AM
Thanks

cranebird
05-30-2014, 05:58 AM
Just like I thought you are sending them over 3800+ fps, so with that 9 twist you are spinning them well over 300 thousand rpm way to high, so with the 3 powders that you have try 32gr and see what you get, you need to be around 3400 fps, it also could be that your barrel just doesn't like those bullets, you might need try to heavier ones.

Dean


PS: I have never known anyone get good groups of of one of those contraptions.

My plain jane 22-250 Axis shoots 32.5 gr of IMR4084 the best. I slowly worked up to 34.7 and the bullets started shredding the target paper up upon bullet impact instead of just making a single hole in it.

COplains
05-30-2014, 02:51 PM
Has anyone compared the nosler 55 gr BT to the 53 vmax? Ive been shooting the noslers but the bc advantage of the 53 vmax has me tempted to switch.

limige....I have a pet load with the Nosler 55gr FBBT's, black tip I use in the .233 and it's difficult to beat. Of the Vmax 50 to 55 gr...I like the 53 the best, I have been able to develop more consistant load's with it for various uses.

dcloco
05-30-2014, 08:41 PM
Guys struggling a bit with my 22 250 and 53 gr. Vmax. Got a 24" CBI 1-9" barrel, Timney set at 1 3/4 lbs, B&C tactical stock. Tried Varget, H4895 and CFE223. Seated bullet at 5, 10 and 20 off for each powder / load but can't seem to close the groups any further than an 1" at 100.
Thoughts?


Quit testing at 100 yards. Bump to 300, then zero at 100 if you wish. Unknowingly passed up multiple GREAT loads with several calibers. My Savage in 300 Win Mag taught this lesson to me.

limige
05-31-2014, 02:22 AM
Ill match your 300 and raise you to 500

Jetpig
05-31-2014, 08:25 AM
The 65gr game king is an excellent performer on deer. I would imagine the match king would work excellent as well.
This I can vouch for as well!

Rooster 50
05-31-2014, 10:18 AM
The 65gr game king is an excellent performer on deer. I would imagine the match king would work excellent as well.


I am pretty sure there is a good reason that they put a disclaimer on the match kings saying that they do no recommend them for hunting.

limige
06-06-2014, 02:24 AM
They do but since when does that mean it doesn't work.
Que tips says tbey aren't supposed to be used to clean your ears either.

I hear amax work excellent on deer in the creedmoor so I wondered about the MKs.

Now scope eye put this thought of a 22-243 in my head and its just eating me up witb curiosity. . **** you dean.

scope eye
06-06-2014, 04:44 AM
I aim to please, pardon the pun

Spanky