New rifle, first groups! AMAZING!

[Not_Infringed]

I can't believe this rifle! It shoots like a laser beam!

Model 10 FCP-HS in .308 Win
Nikon M-308 scope
TPS steel 1 piece base (bedded using JB Weld)
TPS rings (lapped)

Brass: Lapua (Factory new unfired)
Primer: CCI #200 large rifle
Bullets: Barnes 168gr TSX BT
Powder: IMR 4064 43.0gr
OAL: 2.770" (.050" jump to lands)

3 shots (2 holes) fired from 100 yards off bench with front and rear sandbags
.272 MOA max
.118 MOA average to center
http://i.imgur.com/25vN6ua.jpg

[cowtownup]

boom!!!! You gotta love that...

[Freebore]

Good job! I suppose you don't have a chrono? Is be curious what speed you are getting out if that combo

[drybean]

Outstanding

[eddiesindian]

Those were my thoughts exactly when i got my HS. doesnt it feel great?
While shopping around and looking for a good bolt rig, I saw a couple of Remies but they were WAY over priced and they didnt come with what i wanted. The 1st time I spotted the Savage Model 10 FCP Mil Spec, 5R, fluted,threaded, 11.25 twist barrel, with an HS Stock, I had to have it. Sure enuff.....close and tight patterns 1st go around..there even tighter now. Ive done absolutely nothing to the stock.
Mine loves the 150 SMK,s with RL-15 but Ive been developing a different load for the 168,s and 4064 because I cant find RL-15 anymore.
Ive found 42.2 to give me tight groups @ 2730 (5 shoot average) @ 3800ft elev. I tried copying Federal FGMM with 168 SMK,s 42.8 charge weight of 4064 but I found my speed to be faster than factory OEM. I slowed it down and paydirt!...the 175,s are doing even better.
Congrates on your new HS!

[1.618]

That's what I'm TALKIN about!

Nice!

[Not_Infringed]

Good job! I suppose you don't have a chrono? Is be curious what speed you are getting out if that combo
I will get a chronograph one day. But for now...I'd *GUESS* about 2,500 fps.

[Not_Infringed]

Those were my thoughts exactly when i got my HS. doesnt it feel great?
While shopping around and looking for a good bolt rig, I saw a couple of Remies but they were WAY over priced and they didnt come with what i wanted. The 1st time I spotted the Savage Model 10 FCP Mil Spec, 5R, fluted,threaded, 11.25 twist barrel, with an HS Stock, I had to have it. Sure enuff.....close and tight patterns 1st go around..there even tighter now. Ive done absolutely nothing to the stock.
Mine loves the 150 SMK,s with RL-15 but Ive been developing a different load for the 168,s and 4064 because I cant find RL-15 anymore.
Ive found 42.2 to give me tight groups @ 2730 (5 shoot average) @ 3800ft elev. I tried copying Federal FGMM with 168 SMK,s 42.8 charge weight of 4064 but I found my speed to be faster than factory OEM. I slowed it down and paydirt!...the 175,s are doing even better.
Congrates on your new HS!

I am guessing the 5R and threaded option is no longer available. I like the 1:10 of my barrel, but I so wish it was threaded! One day I'll send it off to get threaded.

[RatMag]

Outfreakinstanding!! Gotta love Savage!!

DK

[Oscarflytyer]

Very nice. Mine was awful out of the box. But after 53 rnds, it is shrinking regularly. Yet to shoot some real good match ammo/equivalent loads in it.

[D.ID]

Oscarflytyer, Put some premium high octane fuel in that thing. Athletes have to fuel right to perform, race cars have to fuel right to perform, rifles are the same.
Congratulations to the OP on some **** fine shooting.

[eddiesindian]

I am guessing the 5R and threaded option is no longer available. I like the 1:10 of my barrel, but I so wish it was threaded! One day I'll send it off to get threaded.

this may be true indeed. I have yet to see anybody with my model. Ive asked a few times and started some threads here at SS.C but to no avail.
I like it so much that I purchased a 10FCP-K to send heaviers down range and give my HS a break. Ive owned the HS for a couple of yrs and the Model K for 1 yr. I can honestly say that the HS shows more consistancy and accuracy.
The 10FCP-K in 1/10 twist suprise,s me to no end. Especially for the price.
I think you,ll start seeing tighter groups after a few 100 down the tube and re-evaluate your load.
My thought is that your running faster than 2500. More like mid/high 2600. Unless your a @ sea level.
Im getting 2700 with a 168 SMK 42.2 of 4064 @ 3800ft elev.

[Not_Infringed]

this may be true indeed. I have yet to see anybody with my model. Ive asked a few times and started some threads here at SS.C but to no avail.
I like it so much that I purchased a 10FCP-K to send heaviers down range and give my HS a break. Ive owned the HS for a couple of yrs and the Model K for 1 yr. I can honestly say that the HS shows more consistancy and accuracy.
The 10FCP-K in 1/10 twist suprise,s me to no end. Especially for the price.
I think you,ll start seeing tighter groups after a few 100 down the tube and re-evaluate your load.
My thought is that your running faster than 2500. More like mid/high 2600. Unless your a @ sea level.
Im getting 2700 with a 168 SMK 42.2 of 4064 @ 3800ft elev.

Just curious why you think the rifle will produce tighter groups as more shots are fired? I am not trying to argue, but learn. Are you referring to barrel break in? What are your thoughts about using copper solvent on the barrel? Does the copper help seal the machining marks and imperfections in the rifling?

My elevation is about 700' above sea level. 3,800' is pretty high! I guess that is why your FPS is fast too.

Also, have you shot much 180gr projectiles from a 1:10 in 308Win? Everything I read says its not worth it and 168gr is the heaviest/optimum bullet for a 308. But I wonder if the folks that say that are using 1:12 or 1:14 twist?

[D.ID]

For close range 168s do fine but who ever told you it was optimal is ignorant of ballistics or strictly referring to close range. I run 178 amax or 190 vld in mine. I shoot long range and would not bother with a lighter bullet than a 175.

[GaCop]

Love those Savages! Congratulations!

[300winmag]

Very nice. Mine was awful out of the box.

Same here, although mine is a 110. Even with match ammo, lousy results.


Congrats to OP.

[Rifleshooter308]

I do not say this to be a dick but I can't understand how you can gauge the accuracy of a rifle with a 3 round group. I guess from a cold bore perspective it can be helpful but if your using groups to determine accuracy a minimum 5 shot group with 10 being a better indicator.

Give the Snipers Hide Dot Drill a try. This is what I use for practice and it is extremely helpful. Instead of trying to group you shoot one shot at each dot. There are 20 1/2" dots on each target. This will tell you how accurate your rifle really is.

http://www.mytargets.com/target22%20circles%20x20.pdf

[n4ue]

I can't believe this rifle! It shoots like a laser beam!

Model 10 FCP-HS in .308 Win
Nikon M-308 scope
TPS steel 1 piece base (bedded using JB Weld)
TPS rings (lapped)

Brass: Lapua (Factory new unfired)
Primer: CCI #200 large rifle
Bullets: Barnes 168gr TSX BT
Powder: IMR 4064 43.0gr
OAL: 2.770" (.050" jump to lands)

3 shots (2 holes) fired from 100 yards off bench with front and rear sandbags
.272 MOA max
.118 MOA average to center
http://i.imgur.com/25vN6ua.jpg

Excellent results!
Please explain the 'bedding with JB Weld'.....

ron

[D.ID]

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[D.ID]

Rifle shooter308........................I do not understand why it matters. I say that because a three round followed by a three round followed by a three round will tell you more than a ten round hole. It either groups good or does not.
I have a tikka lite weight that will put three in a 1/4" And then be hot enough to start wondering, Is it a true .25moa gun.........depends on who you ask. Is it accurate? Hell yes. Altho clearly for a limited duration.
Why would I want to waist twenty rounds to track how much the 12th round wonders, Why would spend thirty bucks to find out what number 12 does if all the first three went threw the same hole right were I wanted them and did the job to begin with. The only exception would be if your running a tactical match that requires 12 round in rapid succession.
Practice is great but I fail to under stand why three means nothing but five does.........Not to be a dick but it's retarded.