22-250

[cranebird]

Since I am just starting,what is your favorite load for this caliber ? I most likely will be using Hornady 55gr. FB V Max, 55 gr Nosler 55gr. BT ballistic tip varmint , Nosler 55gr. FB Varmageddon & Hornady 60gr FB Vmax which I have on hand from reloading the .223.I need to try a 4895 powder and see if I can get results for both calibers.Powder is difficult to find much of anything here. Varget is not going to happen,I've been hounding for months and nothing doing.I've got BlC (2) & H335 which I can't find load data listed to use with the 22-250 in my Lyman book .Probably too hot ? Thanks in advance,any help would be appreciated, Ivan

[scope eye]

Favorite load 42gr of Varget 40 gr Vmax 4400 Fps, or 55gr Hornady's 42gr of Win 760 will hit 4000 fps, the 50, 52, and 53 also all work well with Win 760, that CFE223 also works good with the same amount of powder as Win 760, Velocity numbers were achieved with a, 26" 14 Twist McGowen Remage setup.

Dean

[LHitchcox]

Those don't sound like .22-250 loads. I use 35.5/Varget wit the Hornady 55 grain soft point. My most accurate load of all time has been 35.0/H4985 and a Speer 52 grain hp.

[emtrescue6]

IMR4064 seems to be readily available right now....if you can get ahold of some of that I think you'd be happy with the results. I am a huge 4895 fan (of the IMR version), but I have never had any luck with 4895 in my 223 or 22-250's in the past.

[scope eye]

Those don't sound like .22-250 loads. I use 35.5/Varget wit the Hornady 55 grain soft point. My most accurate load of all time has been 35.0/H4985 and a Speer 52 grain hp.

Why don't they sound like 22-250 loads, Hodgdons website has 39.5gr of Varget, with the 40gr bullets so my load is only 5% over there max, and they have 39gr of Win 760 with the 55gr bullets, and I am a little over their max on that load also, it's all good.

Dean

PS: Just because it is there max, in the chamber that they were using,
does not mean it is the max, in the chamber that I am using.

[cranebird]

IMR4064 seems to be readily available right now....if you can get ahold of some of that I think you'd be happy with the results. I am a huge 4895 fan (of the IMR version), but I have never had any luck with 4895 in my 223 or 22-250's in the past.

I was able to get a can of the IMR 4064.I almost bought a can of CFE 223 but want to find some more load data on it.

[scope eye]

Hogdons website has plenty of loads, for CFE223.

http://www.hodgdon.com/

Dean

[emtrescue6]

I was able to get a can of the IMR 4064.I almost bought a can of CFE 223 but want to find some more load data on it.

You should be able to find some loads with 4064 that will make you happy.

[LHitchcox]

Why don't they sound like 22-250 loads, Hodgdons website has 39.5gr of Varget, with the 40gr bullets so my load is only 5% over there max, and they have 39gr of Win 760 with the 55gr bullets, and I am a little over their max on that load also, it's all good.

Dean

PS: Just because it is there max, in the chamber that they were using,
does not mean it is the max, in the chamber that I am using.

I have never seen load data that was 2.5 to 3 grains over listed max for the case capacity of a .22-250. I thought you might have listed .22-250 AI data by mistake.

[LHitchcox]

Why don't they sound like 22-250 loads, Hodgdons website has 39.5gr of Varget, with the 40gr bullets so my load is only 5% over there max, and they have 39gr of Win 760 with the 55gr bullets, and I am a little over their max on that load also, it's all good.

Dean

PS: Just because it is there max, in the chamber that they were using,
does not mean it is the max, in the chamber that I am using.

I have never seen load data that was 2.5 to 3 grains over listed max for the case capacity of a .22-250. I thought you might have listed .22-250 AI data by mistake.

[cranebird]

Hogdons website has plenty of loads, for CFE223.

http://www.hodgdon.com/

Dean
Thanks. I keep forgetting that I have the link bookmarked. Interesting that in the .223 data, the IMR4064 powder notes some compressed loads. I will probably just stick with it as 22-250 powder but good to know that it will work for .223 as well.

[yotehtr1]

I've had good luck with 30.5 g of h4895 and 50 grain vmax. It's a little on the slow side but under .4 at 100. Also 38 g of h380 and a nosler 50 g ballistic tip was just over 3600 fps and sub .250 at 100. Of course that's my gun but those are 2 powders to consider. Hope that helps.

[Jetpig]

37.5 H380/Sierra 52g MK always does the job for me!

[emtrescue6]

I have never seen load data that was 2.5 to 3 grains over listed max for the case capacity of a .22-250. I thought you might have listed .22-250 AI data by mistake.

I'm not sure where you are getting your data from...but off the top of my head in't the case capacity for a 22-250 case generally around +/-42.5g of water? Keep in mind, case capacity varies a fair amount from manufacturer to manufacturer.

Plus, we all know...no one gets more case capacity than Scopeye! :)

[scope eye]

That is where Bench grinders with offset grinding stones come in handy,

2nd one down

http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_case_capacity.htm

[emtrescue6]

That is where Bench grinders with offset grinding stones come in handy,

2nd one down

http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_case_capacity.htm

Well there ya go....certainly more than 40g :)

[cranebird]

Thanks for the replies.I'm about to get started on sorting it out with the IMR 4064.For whatever reason I ended up with CCI 250 primers instead of the large rifle primer.That is twice they've given me a magnum primer....I've got to pay attention next time.:frusty:

[cranebird]

Well I borrowed a handful of large rifle primers from my neighbor.I was at odds for OAL for the Nosler bullets and then I found a Nosler reloading charts online.It list the minimum powder charge to be the most accurate load for the IMR 4064 powder. 30.5 gr of IMR4064 =3211 fps with an OAL of 2.350" I loaded 3 rounds to test but it is snowing here this morning. Normally I add the lowest and max powder load data numbers on the chart and divide by 2 and begin loading there and jump up every .2 grains up from there to find the most accurate load. By doing that I would have skipped the most accurate load according to Nosler.I have so much to learn.....

I have another question.I bought 50 rounds of Hornady brass but instead of dies for a reloader, I bought the Lee hand loader kit which doesn't full length size the brass, it just neck sizes.My question is should the new brass be full length resized a first time or no ?Once fired it is formed to the rifles chamber, my neighbor seems to think it needs to be full length resized but either way they both are going to fit and then once fired,they will be neck sized from there on out.I don't want to set up a reloading bench again if I can get away with it for now.Any opinions would be appreciated.

[missed]

Close an empty piece of brass in the chamber, if it closes without excess pressure there fine. I typically full length size the first time to make sure that I have the consistency. If it's brand new brass it should not be an issue.

[scope eye]

OK, a couple of things going on here, first off you should not have to full length size new brass, sometimes the neck gets dented in bulk packaging but that is it, you could cycle a couple and see what you get, but I am sure they will be fine, when I see loads in manuals saying this is the most accurate load, maybe it is for that gun that they were testing with, but this has absolutely no relavence to your gun, different chamber, barrel material, barrel length, head space, throat erosion, brass, primer, I could go on, it is a good starting reference point nothing more.

Dean