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Hotolds442
04-02-2014, 04:49 AM
I can't take credit for the following info, nor can I find the web page that it came from in my history as I copied it to my clipboard quite a while ago, but there's some really good info in here. If anyone already has it bookmarked, please send me a link. I got a good laugh when I read that the 250 and 300 Savage chamberings were causing cracked stocks, but the 30/06 Springfield and the 7mm Mag seemed to have no issues.

Here's a little history lesson on the Savage 110 series:


The Model 110E was the first version; it was introduced in 1963 and produced until 1988. The Model 110E originally had a plain hardwood stock with a Monte Carlo comb; in the 1980s, checkering was added to the pistol grip wrist and fore-end. For most of its production history, the Model 110E was made only in .22-250, 5.56mm, and 7mm Magnum, but more chamberings were added in the 1970s and 1980s. It uses a 22-inch barrel. The Model 110EL was a left-handed version of the Model 110E; it was restricted to 7mm Magnum and .30-06, and was built only in small numbers. (For game purposes, it is identical to the standard Model 110E in the same chamberings.) The Model 110ES (also known as the Super Value) was sold under the Stevens name from 1981-85, and included a 4x telescopic sight and mounts, a hardwood stock with plain checkering, and a 22-inch tapered barrel with a folding leaf rear sight and drilling and tapping. Soon after the introduction of the Model 110E, the Model 110M was announced; this is a magnum-firing version of the Model 110E, produced from 1963-73, and had a 24-inch barrel, a recoil pad on the butt, and an enlarged bolt-face recess and long action. The Model 110ML is a left-handed version of the Model 110M, produced in the same chamberings as the Model 110M.


From 1964-80, the Model 110P (Premier Grade) was produced; it was a deluxe version of the Model 110E. It was chambered only in a few calibers, used a 24-inch barrel for the 7mm Magnum version, and had a French walnut stock with a half-length fore-end and a roll-over Monte Carlo comb. The fore-end had a rosewood endcap, and the checkering on the pistol grip wrist and fore-end had a skip-line pattern. The Model 110PE Presentation Grade model is even more fancy than the Model 110P, with engraving on the receiver, trigger guard, magazine floorplate, and stock; and they rarely were fitted with iron sights (though they were always drilled and tapped). They are otherwise identical for game purposes to the Model 110P. While the Model 110PE is rare, the Model 110PEL left-handed version is virtually never seen. The Model 110P also had a left-handed version, the Model 110PL.


The Model 110C was produced from 1966-86. It is essentially a Model 110E with a detachable magazine and some improvements, most notably a new, more powerful extractor. Most Model 110Cs have 22-inch barrels, but two chamberings (introduced in 1979) -- .22-250 and .25-06 – had 24-inch barrels in addition to 22-inch barrel versions. (Neither of these 24-inch barrel versions proved popular; the .25-06 model was taken out of the line in 1982, and the .22-250 version was gone by 1985.) The Model 110CL is a left-handed version of the Model 110C, restricted to .243, .270, 7mm Magnum, and .30-06. The Model 110CY Youth rifle was introduced in 1992 and is still being produced; it has a shorter stock, but is otherwise identical to the Model 110C. It was introduced in .243 and .250 Savage, but more chamberings were added as time went by, and the .250 Savage version was removed from the market in 1995.


The Model 110D is similar to the Model 110C, but had a detachable floorplate enclosing a magazine. It was produced from 1972-88, and had somewhat different chamberings than the Model 110E or 110C. A left-handed model, the Model 110DL, was also produced.


There were two versions called the Model 110B; the first one was produced from 1976-89. It was basically a Model 110E with a select-quality walnut stock, and chambered only for .243, .270, 7mm Magnum, .30-06, and .338 Magnum. It also had a left-handed version which was produced until 1991. The second Model 110B was a variant of the Model 110G, produced from 1989-91; it had some extra chamberings, had a simple brown-stained hardwood stock with a non-slip rubber shoulder plate. It was made only in small numbers.


The Model 110S Silhouette rifle was built from 1978-94; it was chambered only for 7.62mm, and used a 22-inch heavy tapered barrel. The stock had a high comb, and the pistol grip wrist was stippled instead of checkered.


The Model 110V is a version of the Model 110D, but was a varmint rifle with a heavy 26-inch barrel that had no iron sights. For most of its history, the Model 110V was chambered only for .22-250, but in 1986, a 5.56mm version was introduced, and then quickly withdrawn. The Model 110V was built from 1983-94.


From 1986-94, the limited-edition Model 110K was produced; it had a laminated camouflage-finish stock, was chambered only for .243, .270, 7mm Magnum, .30-06, and .338 Magnum, and is otherwise identical to the Model 110D.


The Model 110F was produced from 1987-94. It used a straight-comb black Rynite stock, but was otherwise similar to the other Model 110 rifles of the time. Variants included the left-handed Model 110FL. The Model 110FP Police rifle was introduced in 1990 and is still being produced; it has a 24-inch barrel, a non-reflective finish for the metalwork. In 1995, the initial Model 110FP was replaced by the Model 110FP Police Tactical rifle; this version has a graphite/fiberglass stock with a glass fiber barrel bedding system, sling swivels, and more chamberings (the first version of the Model 110FP was chambered only in 5.56mm and 7.62mm). The Model 110FL is a left-handed variant of the Model 110F; the Model 110FLP is a left-handed variant of the Model 110FP (and is still being produced. The Model 110FNS has no iron sights, but is otherwise identical to the Model 110F. The Model 110FX is also virtually identical to the Model 110F, but has a Weaver sight base machined integral to the receiver. The Model 110FM, also known as the Sierra, has the graphite/fiberglass composite stock, but only a 20-inch tapered barrel, and is much lighter than the standard Model 110F.


The Model 110G was produced from 1989-94. The rifle used a 22-inch barrel for standard chamberings, and a 24-inch barrel for magnum chamberings. The stock was of beech, with a non-slip rubber buttplate. One of the chamberings was .300 Savage, but after numerous complaints about cracked stocks, this chambering was withdrawn in 1995, after two years. The Model 110G had an internal magazine, but the Model 110GC, produced from 1992-94, had a detachable box magazine. The Model 110GL was the left-handed version. The Model 110 GNS and GLNS were versions of the standard and left-handed models with no iron sights. These two rifles in addition to the Model 110GL were restricted to .270 Winchester, 7mm Magnum, and .30-06. The Model 110GV is a varmint rifle version with a heavy barrel. The Model 110GX is a version of the standard Model 110G with a Weaver scope base. The Model 110WLE (also known as the One in a Thousand series) is a special version of the Model 110G, with a select-quality walnut stock, a laser-etched Savage logo on the bolt, and a stock strong enough to use .250 and .300 Savage rounds:noidea:. It is otherwise identical to the Model 110G for game purposes.

Fireball
04-02-2014, 08:01 AM
Lots of good information there. I have an early 243 that is prior to these dates you list. What should I be calling it? Is it not a 110?

LHitchcox
04-02-2014, 09:43 AM
The original 110 was designed in the late 1950s and hit the market in 1958 or 1959. The bolt had a nose on it that locked into the barrel. It was redesigned in the early 1960s and looks like what we have now. Early barrels had a large ring left on them for the rear sight cut out. This ring was taken off about the time the bolt was redesigned.

sharpshooter
04-02-2014, 05:14 PM
Don't know where you got that, but there are a lot of decrepiencies in that information.

Hotolds442
04-02-2014, 08:43 PM
Don't know where you got that, but there are a lot of decrepiencies in that information.

I agree. They started building the 110 in 1958, not 1963 as stated. LH models in 1959. It was named the 110 because that was the retail price in 1958. I have an ad from 1960 showing a price of 114.75 for a Model 110 MC. The early models can usually be dated by a small oval on the receiver with one or two numbers and a letter. The letter designates the year, J is 1958, K is 1959, L is 1960 etc.....
Also, the address on the barrels changed in 1960 from Chickopee Falls, MA. To Westfield, MA.

J.Baker
04-02-2014, 09:00 PM
Yeah, whoever wrote this didn't have a clue what they were talking about. Just look through the catalogs I have scanned and posted here in the History section and you can disprove 90% of it. I've seen a number of so-called "expert" big name gun writers try to write pieces like this on the Savage 110 and they have all just made fools of themselves.

If you want the most accurate history of the 110 you're every going to find, go read this one written by Robert (Bob) Greenleaf. Bob started working at Savage as an engineer in 1962 and was forced to retire in 1988 when Ron Coburn took over and cut the number of employee's by 75% when the company was bankrupt. Even after being forced out Bob has kept close ties with Savage and the engineering staff and continues to offer up his assistance and knowledge when they'll let him (he lives about a mile from the factory).

Bob's the one who was tasked with designing the detachable magazine system for the Model 99 (his first project), and then the detachable magazine system for the Model 110. He also had a hand in many of the changes that were incorporated into the Model 110 in 1966 when they totally revamped the design to make it faster and cheaper to manufacture (this is the same basic design still used today).

Anyway, here's the link to his article on the history of the Model 110 that was originally published in Precision Shooting magazine as two separate pieces.

http://www.savageshooters.com/content.php?105-The-Savage-Model-110-Rifle

CAPTBEACH
04-02-2014, 10:34 PM
Somewhere in there they also made the 110FP in 25-06 and 30-06 along with the standard 223/556, 308 and 300WM

old_plinker
05-22-2014, 09:58 PM
I have a 110FP that has the internal center feed box, not a hinged floor plate or detachable mag. The rear of the receiver is flat, not rounded. Serial number starts with F35xxxx. Any idea how old this one is and where I can get a one piece 20 moa base for it?

drybean
05-22-2014, 10:22 PM
I have a 110FP that has the internal center feed box, not a hinged floor plate or detachable mag. The rear of the receiver is flat, not rounded. Serial number starts with F35xxxx. Any idea how old this one is and where I can get a one piece 20 moa base for it?

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