In Need of Some Advice On What To Do.

[foxx]

I did not mean to say blind mag stock is not sometimes preferable to DBM stock, but, rather, that I would not recommend buying DBM stock only to convert to blind mag stock. Used rifle with blind mag stocks can be found everyday on auction sites and local pawn shops for less than $300; older DBM style rifles typically/generally go for considerably more than that.

Observing that, I would not recommend paying more for DBM only to convert to blind mag once you get out the door.

I, too, prefer blind mags in certain situations.

[bsekf]

I would go with the older one. The Tasco scope, if made in Japan could be a keeper. what power is it? Many like it as well as the Weaver T. Are the rings Signature Z, the ones with the plastic inserts? If so, they are worth $30 +. If they are the dovetail kind and the rear base has windage adjustment, they are worth something extra too. Did they make the J series with a box magazine? Somebody on here should know. I have a feeling they didn't and you will have a standard SA.

Bill

[Nemesis]

I would go with the older one. The Tasco scope, if made in Japan could be a keeper. what power is it? Many like it as well as the Weaver T. Are the rings Signature Z, the ones with the plastic inserts? If so, they are worth $30 +. If they are the dovetail kind and the rear base has windage adjustment, they are worth something extra too. Did they make the J series with a box magazine? Somebody on here should know. I have a feeling they didn't and you will have a standard SA.

Bill

The Tasco Scope starts at 6x and goes to something like high 20 or maybe 30. It has a cut out on it that shows yardage charts up front where the recital is and the it has a double cross-hair going horizontal in it. I just woke up as my little girl kept me up late last night after getting home from work. I'm gonna call the guy in a minute to see if the other person has came in today and made a decision yet.


Just called, and as I would figure, the guy has been in the last two weeks like clock work at 9EST but today, when I'm waiting to see if he is buying a rifle, he hasn't came in yet...LOL. The owner is suppose to call me when the guy comes in today. So now it's a waiting game.

[Nemesis]

Owner of the shop just called. Other guy didn't take the rifle so I'm going to pick it up this evening. I'll post up some pictures later on because I'm sure I'll have questions about it. Thanks again for all the advice from everyone.

[emtrescue6]

easy call....buy both! ;)

[Nemesis]

I went and picked the rifle up today. Although it needs a little TLC, I'm happy with the purchase. Below are the pictures of the rifle, along with the Japan Tasco that is on it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/GASRAT/IMG_0987_zps7e5cd35e.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GASRAT/media/IMG_0987_zps7e5cd35e.jpg.html)

Here is a better picture of the Japan Tasco. It is a 6x24x40 and goes up in power by 2x. Has made in Japan on the bottom of it along with the duel crosshair running horizonal in the retical.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/GASRAT/IMG_0990_zps085e3bc4.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GASRAT/media/IMG_0990_zps085e3bc4.jpg.html)

Scope also has this option on it, which gives distances and several species of animals. The distances change in number as you increase the power of the scope. I've never seen one like this before. But again, I've never dealt with Japan Tasco's before.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/GASRAT/IMG_0989_zps341fc668.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GASRAT/media/IMG_0989_zps341fc668.jpg.html)

Here is the the elevation dial looks like in top of the scope. The windage dial is marked like a normal scope with 1/4" adjustment per 100 yards.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/GASRAT/IMG_0992_zpsd69dbe9c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GASRAT/media/IMG_0992_zpsd69dbe9c.jpg.html)

Here is the crown on the end of the barrel. I mentioned it looked like that of a Hart barrel based on another one I looked at that I knew was a Hart. However, I don't know what the barrel maker is. I'm gonna take the rifle apart when I get home to see if I can maybe find a manufacture name on it anywhere.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v166/GASRAT/IMG_0991_zpsd54241e3.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/GASRAT/media/IMG_0991_zpsd54241e3.jpg.html)

[sixonetonoffun]

Looks like a keeper to me!

[Nemesis]

Looks like a keeper to me!

I hope it's a shooter to...LOL. I'm hoping the barrel isn't shot out due to the age of the rifle. Don't know the age of this barrel. However, I've got another barrel to go on it if this one doesn't perform. Now the fun part is finding out what it likes....I'm gonna check the twist of it tonight when I get home. Then it will be time to work up loads.

[foxx]

The rifle looks great. I bet you'll like that trigger. Don't know anything about the scope. I don't think anyone can tell you what the barrel is based on the crown. Most companies will offer that type of crown or a couple others. Usually optional with all.

Probably won't find a makers mark on the barrel anywhere. Seems like you would, but they don't seem to do that much. If you remove the barrel you may find stamps or hand-lettering stating 6BR or whatever it is chambered. Someone might be able to offer opinions on what it might be, but nothing likely for certain. Hey, if it shoots, it shoots. I am sure it doesn't matter. They are all good. Only problem might be if it is shot-out.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

[foxx]

Actually, that barrel looks like a factory Savage Varmint, based on the fluting. 26"?

[Nemesis]

Only problem might be if it is shot-out.



Yeah, that is my only concern about it. However, like mentioned, I have the Model 12 take off to go on it still if that is the case.


Actually, that barrel looks like a factory Savage Varmint, based on the fluting. 26"?

Don't think it's that long, foxx. Or at least it doesn't look that long. Actually it looks more like a 22" barrel or 24". I don't have a way or measuring it right now at work. Based on the crown, and ever other savage I own, it's totally different than them. But again, all I own are Model 12 FV's

[foxx]

No matter what, you did well.

[Nemesis]

I ended up trading around and getting the rifle at a great price. Crazy how much stuff a man has laying around he hasn't used in years that other people want. Be my luck though, I'll be needed something I traded off in a few days after it's laid upon a shelf for the past two years.

[Hotolds442]

That rifle is not of shooting quality. You'll have to send it to me to properly dispose of it.

seriously, nice snag! Look closely at the barrel where the bolt head would be with the bolt closed, there may be manufacturers info engraved there. The barrel may have to be removed to decipher it though.

[Hotolds442]

Be my luck though, I'll be needed something I traded off in a few days after it's laid upon a shelf for the past two years.
I think a guy named Murphy declared that a law somewhere......
it never fails

[Nemesis]

That rifle is not of shooting quality. You'll have to send it to me to properly dispose of it.

seriously, nice snag! Look closely at the barrel where the bolt head would be with the bolt closed, there may be manufacturers info engraved there. The barrel may have to be removed to decipher it though.

I'll take a look. Gonna break the rifle down when I get home and clean it real good. Maybe I can find something there. As of right now, I'm not seeing anything by way of manufacture name anywhere on it.


I think a guy named Murphy declared that a law somewhere......
it never fails


Oh, I'm sure I'll need something I got rid of today in the next week or two.

[Hotolds442]

I had a Tasco similar to that, mine was a 6-24. The top dial was calibrated for range. You put the animal between the two crosshairs, turn the magnification dial until the body tightly fits between the two, from back to belly, look at the dial and find the animal, that gives you the range. Then you'd turn the elevation dial to that range and fire with no holdover. Not a bad system, but there were only 4 or 5 dials to choose from and they weren't that precise on any loads I ever used with it.

[bootsmcguire]

I had a Tasco similar to that, mine was a 6-24. The top dial was calibrated for range. You put the animal between the two crosshairs, turn the magnification dial until the body tightly fits between the two, from back to belly, look at the dial and find the animal, that gives you the range. Then you'd turn the elevation dial to that range and fire with no holdover. Not a bad system, but there were only 4 or 5 dials to choose from and they weren't that precise on any loads I ever used with it.

I have that exact same scope and it is set up just as Hotolds442 describes. Looks like the OP's is missing the ring and retainer cap for the ring. Still a decent scope, I use mine often. Its kind of the old go-to for testing new barrels and load work up. Once I get my load I often remove it and install a scope more suited to the barrel's intended use. The range estimations on the ring are not all that accurate so you are not missing much.

[Hotolds442]

I think I have some of the dials, but without the retainer cap they'll be as useful to you as they are to me.

[bootsmcguire]

A machine shop could easily make the cap if you can identify the threads on the turret of the scope dial.