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the Ranger
02-15-2014, 06:00 PM
BillPA, that looks like a homebuilt tool, got pics of the end that fits in the action?

BillPa
02-15-2014, 07:07 PM
BillPA, can you remove original, factory-installed nuts with these tools?



No, especially with the open spanner. You'll spring the ends open. I tried it once and had to squeeze them back in place in my 6" vise.:p

Bill

BillPa
02-15-2014, 07:23 PM
BillPA, that looks like a homebuilt tool, got pics of the end that fits in the action?
Not the best pic of it ...
http://i39.tinypic.com/xkrtbl.jpg

I made it years ago for my Rem switch barrel guns. Its a piece of bar stock slotted for a piece of flat stock tig's in for the lugs and a old 1/2" drive socket tig's on to use a T handle. I don't have the dimensions off the top of my head, I have to measure them.

Google "Remington rear entry action wrench". I know Davidson make one, probably some others.

Bill

AZ_GUN_NUT
02-15-2014, 08:01 PM
Here you go: http://www.sinclairintl.com/reload/davidson-firearm-tools/davidson-action-wrenches-davidson-rear-entry-action-wrench-stolle-savage.aspx

http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/skus/l_749005813_1.jpg

COplains
02-15-2014, 08:31 PM
Amazing how much useful information came out of such a simple question....hot damm!

Dennis
02-16-2014, 07:26 PM
I use a barrel vise and wrap two layers of file folder cut as long as the vise, or just a little longer. I put the barrel in the vice with the paper wrapped around the barrel at the thickest point determined with a caliper. tighten the vise nuts evenly not using too much force. They need to be tight, but over tightened.

Using a 2 to 3 pound hammer, I pop the barrel nut wrench a few times (after removing the front scope nut) and the barrel nut has loosened every time.

Many use two pieces of 2x4's in a vice. Either way, I have never damaged a barrel, but I always use common sense when removing one.

Dennis

COplains
02-17-2014, 04:40 PM
Part Deux.....the nut will not come off the barrel. I wrapped it in leather, in the vice, worked it, soaked it in PBlaster etc. Right as it gets to the end, where it should come off, it gets stuck. I don't want to mess it all up now...sheesh....any advice? Thanks, kb

Hotolds442
02-17-2014, 04:54 PM
Keep working it back and forth. Eventually it will come off. If not, screw it all the way to the muzzle end and look for damaged threads. They can be cleaned up with a triangular file usually.

COplains
02-17-2014, 05:12 PM
Thanks Hot, I figured that would be the answer. I did find a couple flatted threads, got them fixed up. I'll just keep back-n-forth, wish I had a thread chaser. It's Mongos' fault. kb

COplains
02-17-2014, 05:33 PM
Good Grief....Hot, it must have been waiting for me to send out another SOS, no sooner did I run it back to the muzzle, put a couple drops of oil along the way, it spun right off. I don't know wether to laugh or cry. Thanks again to all for your input. kb

BillPa
02-17-2014, 05:34 PM
I did find a couple flatted threads

Ah...hum..well.... a few flattened threads usually means the front mount screw in the ring was too long and smashed'm, not mention it probably wasn't doing much to hold the mount tight either!:p

Another old gunweaker gadget.....
http://i44.tinypic.com/167rpdz.jpg

A length gauge used to measure the mount screws BEFORE installing them.:p

Bill

COplains
02-17-2014, 05:43 PM
My thoughts exactly Bill, I'm measuring where I found the flats, looking at "end-of-threading" i.e. where the bluing starts again in the reciever and the barrel, although the barrel doesn't show much, to see where the barrel was originally. I didn't notice any 'loose' during take down but I wasn't really looking either. From looking at the barrel again, I'm guessing the action screw was too long after whomever did the bedding...removed material, bedded, prob never checked after that. kb

Hotolds442
02-17-2014, 05:46 PM
The front action screw should be under the bolt lug, not even close to the barrel.
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y471/chevypowrd/Rifles/0A48473E-E1C2-45B5-A5EC-1075E436CC82_zps3njuhpdn.jpg

COplains
02-17-2014, 06:14 PM
That's what I thought, but after running across a flat, have to check. There was a section about 3 threads wide by maybe 1/4" mildly flat,,had to get there there some way, but you were right, not even close to the action screw or anything else. By the way, Bill, can I come hang out in your shop for 2-3 days? Have a number of gadgets I'd like to make and don't have the tools for any longer...laffin.

pinsnscrews
02-17-2014, 07:05 PM
The front action screw should be under the bolt lug, not even close to the barrel.
http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y471/chevypowrd/Rifles/0A48473E-E1C2-45B5-A5EC-1075E436CC82_zps3njuhpdn.jpg

The Scope base Mounting Screw is the usual culprit

BillPa
02-17-2014, 08:03 PM
Bill, can I come hang out in your shop for 2-3 days? Have a number of gadgets I'd like to make and don't have the tools for any longer...laffin.

If ya bring beer and ya aint' afured of dogs. I have three Chihuahuas, miserable little mutts!

COplains
02-17-2014, 09:05 PM
Thinkin my upland bird dog would find the mutts tasty....grinz....and Colorado has lots of brews!!

barrel-nut
02-17-2014, 09:46 PM
Coplains and Hotolds, I think billpa was referring to the front scope base mounting screw, not the front action screw, as pins pointed out.

Hotolds442
02-17-2014, 10:42 PM
From looking at the barrel again, I'm guessing the action screw was too long after whomever did the bedding...
Barrel Nut, my photo was in response to this, not anything Bill had in his post.

barrel-nut
02-17-2014, 11:10 PM
Gotcha, I missed that. My mistake.