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bloodhawke83
01-15-2014, 02:53 PM
I want to change out my Axis in 223 to 308 and drop it into a Boyd's stock for hunting.

Another Question, would any 308 model 10 bolt work on the Axis action?


http://www.midwayusa.com/product/631834/e-r-shaw-barrel-kit-savage-110-series-small-shank-308-winchester-factory-contour-1-in-10-twist-24-stainless-steel

Thanks,






Buying a new gun isn't an option, I have no room for one.

LoneWolf
01-15-2014, 03:02 PM
This is easy to do.

1. get a Small Shank (or Standard Shank) 308 barrel.

2. Get a 308 bolt head and change it out on your Axis bolt.

3. Head space with go/no go gauges.

4. Go shoot it.

A model 10 bolt will not work in the Axis, you just need a Savage .308 Bolt head which I believe is the .475 version. I can't remember all the numbers off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure people have had good luck with PTG products.

bloodhawke83
01-15-2014, 03:05 PM
This is easy to do.

1. get a Small Shank (or Standard Shank) 308 barrel.

2. Get a 308 bolt head and change it out on your Axis bolt.

3. Head space with go/no go gauges.

4. Go shoot it.

A model 10 bolt will not work in the Axis, you just need a Savage .308 Bolt head which I believe is the .475 version. I can't remember all the numbers off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure people have had good luck with PTG products.

thanks, now I have a direction to go. I wasn't so sure on the bolt.

Swissfan
01-15-2014, 03:15 PM
I have been looking into rebarreling mine from 308 to 7.5x55, but will need to open the bolt face from .473 to .498 for the 7.5 cartridge. From what I have been able to research, I think it needs to be a short action bolt head, but others may know better.

n4ue
01-15-2014, 04:24 PM
I've redone the following Axis (.223s) into:
.221 Fireball
.223 AI
.22-224 Ruger
6.5 TCU

Very easy once you have a Wheeler nut wrench and a good vice and alum jaws to hold the bbls.....

ron

chunk
01-15-2014, 08:46 PM
Axis 308 into 450 bushmaster got it back today

steveNChunter
01-15-2014, 09:03 PM
I may rebarrel my .223 Axis to 6x45 someday, but that will just be a simple barrel swap.

to the OP, wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to just sell the .223 and buy an Axis in .308?

LoneWolf
01-15-2014, 09:40 PM
to the OP, wouldn't it be easier/cheaper to just sell the .223 and buy an Axis in .308?

Now what is the fun in that! You learn so much more about your rifle when you build it yourself! I'm proud to say no Gunsmith has ever worked on my Axis and it's the nicest rifle I've ever shot long distance next to a standard issue Marine Corps M40A5. Only thing that really made the M40 feel better was the can on it that reduced recoil to 22LR level.

steveNChunter
01-15-2014, 10:30 PM
I have a couple semi-custom rifles myself, but they aren't in factory chamberings offered with the rifle. Even if the OP wants a custom .308, he would be better off to at least start with a .308 mag and .473 bolt face. Starting with a .223 he has the wrong bolt face and the magazine won't work. But by all means it can be done if you want. When the donor rifle for a build can be bought new for $279 (or less if you catch a good sale) it's kinda pointless to put money into changing another rifle to make it work. But if you're heart is set on converting your .223 to .308, then go for it.

bloodhawke83
01-15-2014, 11:38 PM
I have a couple semi-custom rifles myself, but they aren't in factory chamberings offered with the rifle. Even if the OP wants a custom .308, he would be better off to at least start with a .308 mag and .473 bolt face. Starting with a .223 he has the wrong bolt face and the magazine won't work. But by all means it can be done if you want. When the donor rifle for a build can be bought new for $279 (or less if you catch a good sale) it's kinda pointless to put money into changing another rifle to make it work. But if you're heart is set on converting your .223 to .308, then go for it.

I'm in CA, all new purchases of long guns are registered and we have to get a long gun safety certificate now. I'm happy with the amount of guns I have now. Axis is going for 350 here and would be 450 out the door, I can rebarrel with less.

LoneWolf
01-15-2014, 11:49 PM
Where in Cali? If you want I can help with your build. I have all the tools and have completely rebuilt my own Axis.

bloodhawke83
01-15-2014, 11:59 PM
Where in Cali? If you want I can help with your build. I have all the tools and have completely rebuilt my own Axis.

NorCal, near Roseville.

LoneWolf
01-16-2014, 12:04 AM
See that's the problem, not only am I a country boy stuck in California, but I'm also stuck in SOCAL and all the more normal people hang out up north lol.

bloodhawke83
01-16-2014, 12:06 AM
See that's the problem, not only am I a country boy stuck in California, but I'm also stuck in SOCAL and all the more normal people hang out up north lol.

it's where all the fresh water is, our bums bathe in the SoCal water. ;)

bloodhawke83
01-16-2014, 12:33 AM
This is easy to do.

1. get a Small Shank (or Standard Shank) 308 barrel.

2. Get a 308 bolt head and change it out on your Axis bolt.

3. Head space with go/no go gauges.

4. Go shoot it.

A model 10 bolt will not work in the Axis, you just need a Savage .308 Bolt head which I believe is the .475 version. I can't remember all the numbers off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure people have had good luck with PTG products.

THis bolt is too small.

PTG Bolt Head Savage 10 Series 308 Bolt Face Right Hand
Specifications:

Bolt Face Size: 308 Winchester (Standard)
Ejection Port: Right Hand Side
Action Size: Short
Lug Size: .442"
Shank: 1"


Can't find spec for the OEM part.

Savage Arms Bolt Head Short Action Savage 10 to 16 Push Feed Right Hand 22-250 Remington, 243 Winchester, 260 Remington, 7mm-08 Remington, 308 Winchester


Any clues?

bloodhawke83
01-16-2014, 04:31 AM
I just did some measure, looks like the PTG will work. Mine measured .437, i can just file it down if it's not perfect. Now, I just need my tax refund. :D





PTG Bolt Head Savage 10 Series 308 Bolt Face Right Hand
Specifications:
Bolt Face Size: 308 Winchester (Standard)
Ejection Port: Right Hand Side
Action Size: Short
Lug Size: .442"
Shank: 1"

steveNChunter
01-16-2014, 06:30 PM
I'm in CA, all new purchases of long guns are registered and we have to get a long gun safety certificate now. I'm happy with the amount of guns I have now. Axis is going for 350 here and would be 450 out the door, I can rebarrel with less.

Ok, that explains a lot. I completely understand your reasoning now. Carry on :smug:

bloodhawke83
01-27-2014, 02:46 PM
after some more looking at the available barrels and the backlogs. 35 remington looking nice, .358 bullet in .308 case. this gun will be only for hunting anyways. I just need to check my local reloading store to see how well stocked on 35cal.

shoalwater
01-27-2014, 04:45 PM
I have a barrel in 284 Winchester on order that will go on an Axis action once I receive it. Also having the action trued up to take a full recoil lug.

steveNChunter
01-27-2014, 06:45 PM
Bloodhawke83, the .35 remington is not a .308 family case. It's roots can be traced back to Europe actually, as the 9.1x49. Remington took that cartridge and changed very little other than a very slight difference in bore diameter, and it became the .35 remington in 1908 in the Model 8 semi-auto rifle. It has a .460 diameter case head vs. the .308's .473 diameter. The .358 Winchester is essentially a .308 necked up to .35 caliber. Also .35 remington ammo and brass is really scarce right now, and as the cartridge gets ever closer to obsolescence, it will probably only get worse. I have a .35 rem Marlin 336 that I load for, but I've had my brass for several years. The .35 rem is a great cartridge, but I'd advise against chambering a new rifle for it unless you have ample availability of ammo or brass. .358 win would be a better choice IMO. It will make better use of the full length of the action in a bolt gun.