6.5 Tajes

[500 Stroker]

Does anyone have any experience with the wildcat 6.5 Tejas?:o

[stangfish]

Tejas for Texas en Español. Pronounced "Te haas"

http://www.cc-arms.com/tejas/

[calib]

so is it pretty much a ackley rum?

[sinman]

You can't find a slow enough powder to use all of the case capacity. I have been shooting my 6.5 Sin (7mm dakota necked down and improved) and I am right at the bottom of the powder burn rate chart, so any case with more capacity wouldn't work as well as you wouldn't be able to find a slow enough powder. I would say that my case is about the biggest you want to go with a 6.5 bullet.

[500 Stroker]

You can't find a slow enough powder to use all of the case capacity. I have been shooting my 6.5 Sin (7mm dakota necked down and improved) and I am right at the bottom of the powder burn rate chart, so any case with more capacity wouldn't work as well as you wouldn't be able to find a slow enough powder. I would say that my case is about the biggest you want to go with a 6.5 bullet.
What kind of muzzle velocity is your 6.5 Sin run at?

[500 Stroker]

I found out that is a 8mm mag case necked down to 6.5mm

[sinman]

3600 with a 140gr, still have more testing to do.

[Geo_Erudite]

I found out that is a 8mm mag case necked down to 6.5mm

I thought that was a 6.5 mm STW?

[yobuck]

3600 with a 140gr, still have more testing to do.

so whats the point to it?
3500 fps with a 200 gr bullet from a 36" barrel 30x378 has been going on for many years.
3250/3300 with a 300 gr 338 is going on also.
years back a few guys necked down 378 cases to 6.5. it wasent smart then so why would it be smart now?

[RiverSink]

so whats the point to it?
3500 fps with a 200 gr bullet from a 36" barrel 30x378 has been going on for many years.
3250/3300 with a 300 gr 338 is going on also.
years back a few guys necked down 378 cases to 6.5. it wasent smart then so why would it be smart now?

Because, I bet he did not need a 36" barrel! And it is not a 30cal so what does this have to do with it?
He has already got the 338 Sin!
This is not a 378 case, so again where is the relevance?
Opinion's are one thing, passing judgement on the intelligence of another is not!
I do not appreciate reading your argument provoking and demeaning post and I am probably not the only one.
Lastly, he did it because he wanted too. Good enough reason for me! BTW wasent is spelled wasn't! Merry Christmas.

[yobuck]

i guess the point is this is a gun site. the discussion of ideas is a good thing. other opinions and facts is another good thing.
i dont believe i was passing judgment on anyones intelligence but rather pointing out some old facts.
now rather than unload on me how about answering the question i asked.
whats the point to it when far better long range options are available?
if the only answer is (because he wanted to) thats just fine with me.

[RiverSink]

i guess the point is this is a gun site. the discussion of ideas is a good thing. other opinions and facts is another good thing.
i dont believe i was passing judgment on anyones intelligence but rather pointing out some old facts.
now rather than unload on me how about answering the question i asked.
whats the point to it when far better long range options are available?
if the only answer is (because he wanted to) thats just fine with me.

1. You are correct, this is a gun site. Yes, I agree the discussion of idea's is a good thing. Fact's are also a good thing, other opinion's can be a good thing dependent on how they are presented.
2. Ok, if you say so.
3. This thread was started about a 6.5 cal wildcat, nothing else! So what is this for better long range 6.5 you are referring too?
I am not going to hijack or derail this thread anymore than it already has been. Good day

[yobuck]

if you would look back about 60 years you would find the 6.5 was the best long range cartridge on the planet.
that because there was only 1 good bullet which happened to be 6.5.
then along came others in different calibers and that all changed.
my point is there were people stuffing very large amounts of powder in very large cases tring to make a good thing better
and they failed.
since the introduction of the 300 gr smk which is now about 20 years most others have been relagated to the back seat
as for long range use.
there is more interest in 50 caliber today for that purpose than there is 6.5 and for good reason.
look at the b c of the 50 cal 750 gr hornady amax and imagine it traveling 3200 fps.
the 6.5 cartridges could well be a very good choice for most people. but like the venerable f150 ford pickup
it is what it is.

[FW Conch]

Help me here. What 6.5 was the best long range cartridge on the planet in 1953 ? ? ?

[Apache]

Guys........keep it civil.

[500 Stroker]

Does anyone have any experience with the wildcat 6.5 Tejas?:o
I just wanted to try something new.
I am sorry I ever brought it up now.
Just forget it I will find out info some where else:(

[snowgetter1]

500, if you do ever find any more info and get a build together please post us on it. I am interested in small fast rounds too. I have a 243 wssm and was told by many that it would destroy my barrel, was already dead, and a waste of time. I love it. If 6.5 is what you want you will be able to get it done. Anything is possible with a Savage. Good luck.

[FW Conch]

"500", your question is just what the Wildcat Forum is for, in my opinion. Like snogetter1, I am always interested in new ideas also. I am sorry you got so much response based on senility and "jerkism". Especially on Christmas Day. Hopefully you will give Savage Shooters another chance.

Good Luck-Good Shooting.......Jim

[yobuck]

Help me here. What 6.5 was the best long range cartridge on the planet in 1953 ? ? ?

well if you do some checking you will find that norma introduced the 139 gr 6.5 match bullet in the early 50s.
i believe fred huntington became the u. s. importer and introduced them at camp perry as a long range match bullet.
shortly thereafter a shooter named wright necked down the 300 weatherby case creating the 6.5x300 weatherby.
soon after that a gunsmith from lewisburg pa by name of alex hoyer got permission by way of an agreement to build
rifles using that cartridge. from that point thru the 60s it was the most popular long range hunting cartridge.
it ceased being so because of other bullets such as the 162 gr hornady being introduced. what many of you dont realize
is that the modern form of long range hunting has its roots in pa. its only in recent years that it has spread across the country.
the pine creek valley also known as the canyon area of pa has had small groups of long rangers since before ww2.
surplus military rangefinders and huge military binnoculars available after the war made a big difference in its success rate.
again something most hunters in other areas have yet to find out.
the 30x378 was primarily developed by a pa gunsmith by name of howard wolfe in the 60s. hoyer also played around with necking
down the 378 case to 6.5 and decided it to be a bad idea. most of the powder used in those cartridges was military surplus.
h570 was key in those type cartridges. howard wolfe refused to build me a 30x378 unless i aquired some h570 first.
i still have probably 10 lb of it. i know other guys with much more than that. some of the modern powder is actually better.
i personaly never owned a 6.5x300 weatherby. by the time i arrived on the scene the 7mm had taken over. i did recently build
a 6.5 short mag which i traded away a few weeks back. its a wonderfull cartridge. but for (me) others are more wonderfull.
some are much more wonderfull.

[yorketransport]

FWIW,

We tried the 338 RUM necked down to 6.5 (called the 6.5 Badger)and it wasn't as very impressive. Even using powders like IMR 5010 (surplus pull down powder), 20N29, US 869, and H50BMG, we were disappointed with the results. The 375 Ruger case necked down (very similar capacity to Devin's 6.5 Sin) was much more efficient and provided similar results. Obviously barrel life is pretty limited!

Andrew