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Deserthunter
02-27-2010, 01:32 PM
I seem to have a hard time mounting my scopes, so that the reticule is perfectly level on the weapon..... When I thighten down one set of screws, even though I torque each screw only a small amount each time, on each side, I still seem to get the reticule pulled in one direction or the other. Sometimes taking a number of times to get it close (level). Is there a better way to ensure the reticule is level?

Thanks,
Desert

savageboy
02-27-2010, 02:07 PM
I have had the exact same problem for years. I get the action level to the scope, tighten it and it looks "wrong", so I get it as close as possible and then adjust it "by eye" so it looks good. I shoot at 1000yds and it has seemed to work out ok.

Blue Avenger
02-27-2010, 02:09 PM
different brand of rings or lapping them may help. you using a brand that grips hard and leave a mark in the tube when removed?

pa hog
02-27-2010, 02:30 PM
What kind of rings are you using? I use Burris Signature Zee's and have no problems.

warthog97
02-27-2010, 02:50 PM
Try using the wheeler engineering Level-Level-Level and Burris Signature rings

Hammer
02-27-2010, 04:31 PM
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A scope cannot be mounted level.

It is one of Newton's Laws.

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Uncle Jack
02-27-2010, 04:38 PM
+1

I think that it is also against God's will.

"No man shall have a perfectly alligned scope."

uj

Deserthunter
02-27-2010, 04:44 PM
Very Good -- I was just hoping that the devil had a short cut to making that silly line level......

I either use Leupold or Farrell rings and bases... My Savage12FLV uses a Farrell 20moa base. None of the scopes has ever been scratched or been out of alignment. I've got one Leupold 3.5x10AO that's been mounted and unmounted 8-10 times and there isn't a mark on it in the 20 or so years I've had that particular scope... Once in a while I'll get lucky but most of the time it's pure chance.... I use a Wheeler Engineering "Level-Level-Level" and I can still see a degree or so that the scope is out sometimes..... Just thought someone might have a magic formula.....

Scalian
02-27-2010, 10:53 PM
http://www.hollandguns.com

Go to articles then to RETICLE PERPENDICULARITY. Is a good article another reason to go shooting.

Don - LongRangeSupply
02-27-2010, 11:41 PM
I find that if I try to get the reticle plumb by eye it never is actually plumb. No idea why but that is how it works out for me. When it looks right with the rifle on my shoulder it never is.

After finally realizing this, I use a bubble level on the rail and a plumb line to set the the reticle so they are aligned as close to perfect as I can get them.

If I then shoulder the rifle and look through it, virtually ALL the time the reticle appears canted when in fact it is not.

As for the scope rotating when you tighten the ring top screws, that is very common. You need to monitor the reticle alignment to the plumb line and check the bubble level o the rail constantly as you tighten the screws. It can be pretty frustrating sometimes but if you get it plumb to the rail once, then you never need to do that again unless you loosen the ring tops for some reason. You can move it from one rail to another and it will remain plumb.

Deserthunter
02-28-2010, 03:55 AM
Scalian -- the article was very good, and I'll try his "check" and "fix" at the range in a day or so... Thanks,

rjtfroggy
02-28-2010, 08:45 AM
Line the cross hairs up with a level line on a wall and tighten the screws in a criss cross fashion like the lug nuts on a wheel so you don't over togue to one side and the torgue should be 18-20 in/lbs. for the screws.

pdog06
02-28-2010, 08:51 AM
Line the cross hairs up with a level line on a wall and tighten the screws in a criss cross fashion like the lug nuts on a wheel so you don't over togue to one side and the torgue should be 18-20 in/lbs. for the screws.


+1

I do this and also have a level on the base.... I also have a level-level-level and it works good as long as you get the piece that goes in the reciever sitting correctly(not on the mag lips ::))

Bad thing is it still looks canted because i cannot for the life of me setup my target level while at the range :D ::).

dolomite_supafly
02-28-2010, 08:57 AM
These are what I use, the 223 case is there for comparison:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Adyth/Firearms%20related/IMG_2561.jpg

I level the gun on a horizontal plane. Then I place on of these little levels on the receiver, one on the scope rings (if they aren't rounded) and finally one on the elevation turret or cap of the scope.

Example:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/Adyth/Firearms%20related/IMG_2563.jpg

When they all look the same the scope is mounted level to the receiver, cheap and easy.

Dolomite

GaCop
02-28-2010, 09:20 AM
Gordon,

Where did you find those neat bubble levels?

Tom

EFBell
02-28-2010, 11:11 AM
Don't you guys ever go to the article and product review pages? ;)

EFBell
02-28-2010, 11:17 AM
http://savageshooters.com/index.php?articleview=DeadEye Scope Leveler Review

Blue Avenger
02-28-2010, 11:20 AM
hardware stores, lowes, menards...

dolomite_supafly
02-28-2010, 02:03 PM
Gordon,

Where did you find those neat bubble levels?

Tom


Check your email

Dolomite

dolomite_supafly
02-28-2010, 02:15 PM
http://savageshooters.com/index.php?articleview=DeadEye Scope Leveler Review


I think you link is dead.

Dolomite