dolomite_supafly
02-27-2010, 03:38 PM
I gave my true opinion like he asked. I like that he is trying to improve something that is an issue with the savage rifle. and this test was done to find issues with what Gorden is trying to do. He now has some more information to work with. I am positive - No one that said anything bad meant it as a personal slam. You will find a way.
The problem (as Fred pointed out) is that he was providing an untested/unproven product to people, and more importantly to people with unknown experience/knowledge to properly test it AND recognize potential problems.
I'm all for home-grown ideas, but don't start handing them out like free candy to people until A) you've gathered a lot of opinions and feedback from those who know far more about guns than you do, and B) you've fully tested it and proven beyond doubt that it's safe and reliable in a number of different guns. Not doing so is just an accident waiting to happen and one that could leave you liable for injuries sustained or even worse.
It was never handed out willy nilly. It was given to very few people and they knew it was for testing before they even accepted. I had no intentions of handing them out to anyone until I felt they were safe. This is and will always be my top priority and as I said before if I thought for a moment it was dangerous I would stop it. This is the reason I contacted everyone who was testing these and let them know to remove them the second I thought there might be a problem. I didn't wait until someone actually had a problem because just the possibility is a reason to stop everything.
Trust me, I did do testing on my part before I even contacted anyone to have them confirm my findings. My test rifle is a 223 and I had absolutely no issues other than what I have already noted in this thread. This is not to say someone elses rifle may not so I called it and told everyone remove them. Now I have positive feedback and can work towards the next solution.
There are some that are under the impresion I was handing them out to everyone, I was not. There were exactly 8 people who received these FOR TESTING not everyone and their mother as some seem to think.
I tried to remain as civil as possible throughout this, in the threads, in my emails and in my private messages. I would like someone to please point out anywhere I haven't been. Now I have been upset and honestly a little disappointed over how this has panned out with the name calling and such but in the end this is a step in the right direction even though it did get a bit ugly.
Dolomite
The problem (as Fred pointed out) is that he was providing an untested/unproven product to people, and more importantly to people with unknown experience/knowledge to properly test it AND recognize potential problems.
I'm all for home-grown ideas, but don't start handing them out like free candy to people until A) you've gathered a lot of opinions and feedback from those who know far more about guns than you do, and B) you've fully tested it and proven beyond doubt that it's safe and reliable in a number of different guns. Not doing so is just an accident waiting to happen and one that could leave you liable for injuries sustained or even worse.
It was never handed out willy nilly. It was given to very few people and they knew it was for testing before they even accepted. I had no intentions of handing them out to anyone until I felt they were safe. This is and will always be my top priority and as I said before if I thought for a moment it was dangerous I would stop it. This is the reason I contacted everyone who was testing these and let them know to remove them the second I thought there might be a problem. I didn't wait until someone actually had a problem because just the possibility is a reason to stop everything.
Trust me, I did do testing on my part before I even contacted anyone to have them confirm my findings. My test rifle is a 223 and I had absolutely no issues other than what I have already noted in this thread. This is not to say someone elses rifle may not so I called it and told everyone remove them. Now I have positive feedback and can work towards the next solution.
There are some that are under the impresion I was handing them out to everyone, I was not. There were exactly 8 people who received these FOR TESTING not everyone and their mother as some seem to think.
I tried to remain as civil as possible throughout this, in the threads, in my emails and in my private messages. I would like someone to please point out anywhere I haven't been. Now I have been upset and honestly a little disappointed over how this has panned out with the name calling and such but in the end this is a step in the right direction even though it did get a bit ugly.
Dolomite