243 105gr berger in 1:9.25 rate

[dnunn]

I have a couple boxes of 105gr vlds and my rifle is a savage 114 with 1:9.25 rate of twist. Berger recommends 1:8 or faster, yet I've read accounts of excellent results with the slower barrels. Has anyone tried this combo?

[stomp442]

I have had great success with the hornady 105 Amax out of my savage but I have never tried the bergers. They may work OK you will just have to try them. I'm going to guess that they are a bit longer than the Amax so it might be an issue.

[scope eye]

You will be fine as long as you send them 3000 Fps which is not a stretch, I have a 12 twist and still can make them work although it is an AI version but I have to send them at least 3300 fps to get them to cooperate.

Dean

[dnunn]

Thanks, I just needed a little encouragement.

I think the Berger bullet is a little longer than the amax. but then I double checked the box, and I've got the "target BT 105gr." Sounds good and it's kind of wicked looking. 3000ish is at the upper end--exactly where I want to be.

[scope eye]

What do you have powder wise.

Dean

[dnunn]

I've got several to choose from. I'm thinking H4831sc. IMR4350 and IMR4064, too. there are some others too. Any recommendations?

[stomp442]

Probly slower the better for that bullet. H4831sc should work well.

[scope eye]

42gr of H4831 should get you there to 3000FPS, and I am sure you will be able to go higher with out seeing any signs of pressure, since it is such a slow burning powder, it will let you know way in advance, there's trouble down the line.

Dean

[dnunn]

quick update:

I found some Berger 87gr VLD hunting bullets, loaded a few following Berger's coal procedure, and got to try them out this afternoon. What a difference the coal makes!

Best results 0.010" jammed: 3 of 4 in one ragged hole (0.42"); 4th shot pulled but still under 1":
0.010" off the lands: awful 3";
0.020" off lands: 3 of 4 under 1"; 4th opened up to 1.6".

All loaded with 37.1 gr IMR 4064, Win brass, CCI primers. Note this a max load. This is the first time I've loaded a 'jammed' load. Gonna load up a bunch for the next time out.

[GaCop]

I love jammed in my bench rifles but shy away from it in my Savage 243 sporter for obvious reasons.

[bama1]

My model 10 predator hunter loves them with hv100.

[dnunn]

I love jammed in my bench rifles but shy away from it in my Savage 243 sporter for obvious reasons.

My sporter is my bench rifle(!) I really don't do much hunting these days, and if I do, I like my 30-30 lever gun. Maybe if I get the chance for long range coyotes or groundhogs, it's good to have this load. I still have to load another batch to see if the first round results hold true.

Speaking of bench guns, I have ruger varmint model in 220 swift that I've been working on. I going to have to working up a jammed load for that rifle.