need load to get stevens 200 .243 under.5

[Gibbsfan]

I know you want to shoot the 4350 powder but I was just messing with a powder in my 243 this weekend and found that reloder 17 works really well better than 4350 and reloder 19 in my gun. Another thing that is overlooked on alot of reloading is try a differnt primer after you get a group closed up as much as possible. I was shooting 43.5 grains of r17 cci 200 primers and 80 gr ttsx barnes. The reason i said try r17 is there is hardly any deviation between loads the most i saw on my load was 13 fps after barrel was warm

[Dennis]

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...I'ld bump it my self...lol..If you wanna talk no's.. ..H4350 42.7grs CCI's & Nosler 90gr BT's .015 off the lands for five.. ..
How many yards is this load good for? It also seems Nosslers and Sierra's like it .015 off the lands. All my Berger loads get it on the lands!

Any thoughts on the distance?

[1Shot]

...It's a deer load so I've never stretched it out....My hunting ground is pretty wooded so most of my shots are 100yds or less...

[steveinwv]

Sierra Gameking 85gr. BTHP, Winchester brass, 45.0 H4350, CCI200, 2.75"OAL, 3400fps. in a Remington VFII 26". Under 1/2MOA out to 500yds. consistently.

[Dennis]

Sierra Gameking 85gr. BTHP, Winchester brass, 45.0 H4350, CCI200, 2.75"OAL, 3400fps. in a Remington VFII 26". Under 1/2MOA out to 500yds. consistently.

WOW

[dozernomore]

I did some load development in my buddies savage predator hunter 243 win,,,I'm not sure if it's the same rate of twist in your barrel,,I think the predator hunter is 1-9.25,,,the load
hornady 75 gr h.p.
43.7gr IMR 4831
win lrp
win brass
.002 -.003 off the lands

[possum1]

So Bret.....are you saying to just give up and not try any other powder\bullet combo's?
I'm no expert and don't claim to be, but never give up on your hand loads, IMO with hand loads you CAN get moa in a factory Savage if you can do your part ;D

[BrentWin]

I'm no expert and don't claim to be, but never give up on your hand loads, IMO with hand loads you CAN get moa in a factory Savage if you can do your part

He is already getting .75 MOA

The point that I was trying to make before (admittedly not well) was that Mattri has a Stevens 200. Yes most are very accurate and some are exceptionally accurate. But, you have to accept the fact that it is a light weight sport rifle with a flimsy stock and a very average trigger. They are a great little rifle, but not a target rifle.

I think that the internet gun rooms have spawned a mentality that if a gun won't "shoot 1/2" all day long" it isn't worth keeping. A sporter that groups .75 is a great rifle, but Mattri is getting discouraged because it won't do .5

With a target stock, aftermarket trigger and barrel that .5 group or less is a reasonable expectation, provided your skills are up to the challenge. Also many of the Savage varmint/target models will achieve his goals.

I think we also do a disservice to the beginning shooter/reloader when we give exact loads.

45.3 gr. of HXXX with a 90 gr. XXX bullet

Sure, as experienced loaders, we know to load a range of powder weights that encompass the "magic" weight and find the right load for our rifle. The beginner, however, may just load that particular loads and if it doesn't shoot well, he is off to another powder/bullet combo, when his load may have been only 1/2 gr. away.

Mattri, you have a great little rifle there and if you enjoy looking for the perfect load, by all means, continue looking. Just remember that perfection is unattainable (no one has ever shot a .000 group) and that there are many more .5 groups are shot online than at the range.

End of rant and I appologize to anyone that I might have offended with this or my previous posts.

[mattri]

Thanks for all of the replies. Went to the range yesterday with two loads.

41 grns IMR 4350 75 grn Hornady V-Max shot .75 with my buddy getting one .6 something.

41grns IMR 4350 85 grn Sierra HPBT shot lots of .75 but best of the day was .428, I have a pic but no photobucket acct, is there another way to post images?

[DGD6MM]

Matt, if it was me from here I'd play with seating depth, you WILL see a difference and more then likely a good one. After that work on that trigger. Have fun.

[DannoBoone]

Along with continuing loading and experimenting with loads to come up with the one
your rifle likes best, a good stock bedding job may very likely help. Never heard of a
properly done bedding job hindering accuracy, but has helped many a rifle in the
accuracy department.

Photobucket is free to join. All ya have to do is go there and sign up.

[mattri]

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab333/rritchie1027/243JPG.jpg

Here's my target from the range the other day. Thanks for the replies and suggestions.

[1Shot]

...When are you going to bump it.. ???

[DGD6MM]

It certainly looks like it's coming around matt, keep it up.

[mattri]

1shot- going to bump the powder charge next time out. Now that I can post pics will show the results.

[BobT]

It looks like you have the basic load, now it's time for the fine tuning, seating depth, small incremental charge weight adjustments etc. Make sure you only change one thing at a time so you will know what works and what doesn't. If you don't already have one a chronograph is a really great accuracy tool IMHO, you can see what every round is doing when you fire it. I think you are shooting great groups buy the way, I know there is a lot of talk about rifles that "shoot 1/2" all day long" and there are some that will but in my nearly 40 years of reloading and serious shooting any sporter weight rifle that will do it is a rare bird indeed.

Bob

[mattri]

Ordered a SSS trigger, going to bump the load and see where we're at.

[possum1]

going to bump the load and see where we're at. Remind's me of when I was young, alway's trying to get that extra HHUMMRUMPH ::)

[mattri]

possum1- Probably true for a lot of us back in the day:) Just taking what seems like the next logical step in load development, tried dropping the charge, now I'll try bumping it.

[mattri]

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab333/rritchie1027/GEDC0506.jpg

http://i877.photobucket.com/albums/ab333/rritchie1027/GEDC0508.jpg

First pic is at 100, 2nd is at 225.