barrel recommendations

[flatshooter]

In the near future I want to barrel a Savage to .25-06.

I noticed that Shilen only has 1:9, 1:10, 1:12, and 1:14.

I'd like to have this rifle as a long range deer/varmint rifle.

I know some of you deal with sharp shooter supply...... who else do you deal with? And can I get a faster twist than 9?

Or what twist do you recommend? Will a 10 do both? I have a 10 in a .243 and am disappointed and in the past was disappointed with a 12.

[stomp442]

A 10 twist in 25 cal will stabilize the 115s and 117s just fine. I have a couple 250-3000s that run the 115 Berger beautifully at just under 2800 fps. That same bullet at 3000 plus shouldn't be a problem at all. Shilen is a good barrel but I like and recommend the CBI barrels sold by Northland.

[bootsmcguire]

I have had great luck with my CBI from NSS. Shoots great and cleans easy. Shilen is also very high quality. I had a McGowan and Pac-Nor that both shot terriffic and I even have a lowly little ER Shaw in 7mm Mag that brings me 5-shot groups in the .3's at 100yds.

For my money CBI is the way to go for the best value, and terrific accuracy.

[flatshooter]

whats CBI? Criterion?

[bootsmcguire]

CBI is Criterion Barrels. Here is a link to the Northland Shooting Supply (NSS) page here on CBI barrels. Best way to find out about CBI's is to call NSS and talk with Jim Briggs. He is a great guy to talk to and full of knowledge. He can tell you all about them and keeps quite a few on the shelf.

http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?6274-CBI-(Criterion)-Rifle-Barrels

[flatshooter]

thanks...doesn't list .25-06

[stomp442]

He can order you one and save you a little money in the process. I would just go through him if I had to order a barrel anyways. He also stocks shilen barrels as well, he might have one of theirs on the shelf.

[flatshooter]

great thanks

[bootsmcguire]

thanks...doesn't list .25-06

Oops, your right, they don't list any .257cal stuff. As stomp said give Jim a call anyway. He can hook you up with a Shilen or maybe CBI has added 257 stuff since Jim last updated the list.

[mattri]

Criterion's home page now lists 25-06 so Jim can probably get it. Give him a call, you won't be sorry.

[flatshooter]

what does this description mean.... from shilen?

pre turned $ 200.00
unturned $ 165.00

[bootsmcguire]

I would say they are pricing a raw unturned blank (which would require a smith to turn it on centers and setup and idicate to the bore for chambering, threading and contouring) and a machined blank (which should already have the ends faced and turned between centers so the smith can just indicate and chamber, thread, and contour).

I would say unless you want something done special by a smith hired by you, that you need to be looking for "Savage Pre-fits" when shopping for a barrel. That will be a barrel that is (when you recieve it) ready to screw on and headspace on your action.

[flatshooter]

got it

[flatshooter]

stomp why do you prefer CBI over Shilen?

[stomp442]

Mainly because they are a little cheaper and they are just as accurate and clean up just as easy. From what I understand, Criterion is a sister company of Krieger specializing in cut rifled barrels. So you know its a quality barrel as well and not just some guy in his garage turning barrels.

[kevlars]

+1 on the Criterion Barrel. I have one on a Stevens 200 that my friend and I each built one of. It is chambered in 243 1 in 8 twist. We shoot 105 Amaxs really well. Beautiful barrel for the money.

Kevlars

[glassbeaver]

Mainly because they are a little cheaper and they are just as accurate and clean up just as easy. From what I understand, Criterion is a sister company of Krieger specializing in cut rifled barrels. So you know its a quality barrel as well and not just some guy in his garage turning barrels.

Don't know if this is just a syntax thing but CBI barrels are button rifled while Krieger are cut rifled. Just clearing that up for the OP.

[flatshooter]

+1 on the Criterion Barrel. I have one on a Stevens 200 that my friend and I each built one of. It is chambered in 243 1 in 8 twist. We shoot 105 Amaxs really well. Beautiful barrel for the money.

Kevlars

Great!! have fun.

I rebarreled a 243 way back with a 1:12..... shoulda got a 1:8.... but was concerned about only using varmint bullets so wanted to stay away from the 1:8... I'd still have it, but I traded for a custom mauser that used to be mine from a local gun shop I traded from a guy who traded me my mauser for a M700. He traded a pistol for my mauser and one day I went to the gunshop wherehe swapped and there was my mauser with a 1:10 that shot better than the savage I rebarreled. SO I traded the savage, got back my mauser.... but now I want to build a 25-06 on a 110 I picked up yesterday, in a .30-06.

[Luckus]

Rock Creek 5R cut rifled for me.

[derrelw]

Douglas XX or Bartlein cut rifled.