17 Hornady Hornet brass???

[mcho]

I have some brass from factory loads that have shallow primer pockets. They are so shallow that you can not seat a new primer without reaming the pockets about .02. Has any one else had this problem with factory ammo brass?? Mark

[Orange_Crush]

I do find the .17 Hornet case to be a little difficult in seating the primers. I had in fact given up trying to use a primer pocket uniformer tool on the cases because I couldn't get a good enough grip on the case. But I just found a tool that should hold the little .17 case nicely while using the primer pocket uniformer.

[mcho]

More info please. Thank you. Mark

[Orange_Crush]

I found a tool at 21st century shooting that they call a neck turning handle, but it leaves the primer area exposed, so I ordered one to try. They also have a flash hole deburring tool just for .17 Calibers.

[davemuzz]

I just de-capped and re-primed about 15 Hornady factory loads that I shot a few weeks ago. I had no problems resizing the brass (Hornady dies) and no issues seating new primers (Winchester SR primers). I even took my micrometer to the old primers and compared 'em to the new ones. I did this as I read this post before I did the brass prep.

Just curious if you guys had measured the depth of the factory primers you had de-capped?

[mcho]

Hi Dave.

The primers that I removed were about .117 to .112. New primers were about .124. Most Horndy brass were about .10 to .11. Most other brass ( to include Lapua ) measure about .125 to .130.

Resizing was not a problem. Seating the new primers deep enough is where the problem is.

I contacted Hornady and was told that they had heard something about the problem but did not offer to do anything to compensate me for the issue.

I have about 200 of the shallow primer pocket brass and am not very happy.

After all is said and done I still love the 17 Hornet, it shoots great.

Mark

[davemuzz]

Mark, I'm using Winchester SR primers. What brand of primers are you using?

[mcho]

Dave, I have used CCI, Rem and Fed.

I have some Hornady brass that is just fine but more that is not.

[JLShipley]

I had the same issue with my once fired Brass (have not obtained any new brass as of yet), I figure out a way to use my small pocket uniformer and the new primer seated alright, no problems at the range, a friend used in his rifle, all fired.
CCI Small Rifle
H110 power 8.5 gr
20 V-max
3250

[davemuzz]

BTW.....Just curious, but are you guys having this problem with just new Hornady Brass? You know....not once fired factory ammo? I would think it has to be just new Hornady brass as if it has been loaded once.....how could the primer pockets be too shallow if they have already had primers in 'em??

[mcho]

Dave, I don't know how the heck they do it. I only have once fired Hornady brass. I have three lot #'s and they are not all bad. I will check to see if I have a lot # on some of the bad brass ammo. I feel that Hornady should at least offer to send some new brass to replace the bad lot #s. Mark

[davemuzz]

MCHO, I agree. In fact....I feel that I buy so much Hornady products that I would just pack up the bad brass, send it along with a letter to Hornady and just ask them to fix it for me please. I don't spend my hard earned money on brass so that I have to complete their work for them.

[mcho]

That is a good idea Dave. I think I will give them a call first and see what they have to say. Hornady has always impressed me as a stand up outfit. They are only about 150MI. from me and I go right past them when I go shoot PDs. We will see what happens. Mark

[Orange_Crush]

To Mcho, so what did Hornady say when you called them? I finally determined that all of my Hornady brass suffers from the shallow primer pockets.

[mcho]

I sent them another E-Mail but have not got a reply yet. I have been out of town for the last week and now I need to catch-up on things around here but if I do not get a reply soon I will try to call them.

Mark

[plinkin]

For those interested I received notification that MidwayUSA has more Hornady 17H cases as of today.

[mcho]

The last I heard was that the new run would be in Aug. Mark

[plinkin]

The last I heard was that the new run would be in Aug. Mark

I am NOT talking 17 WSM RF. 17 Hornady Hornet. I did say Hornady 17H cases.

[mcho]

I am NOT talking 17 WSM RF. 17 Hornady Hornet. I did say Hornady 17H cases.

What is the difference between 17 Hornady Hornet and the Hornady 17H? I guess I thought that they were both 17HH. Mark

[plinkin]

What is the difference between 17 Hornady Hornet and the Hornady 17H? I guess I thought that they were both 17HH. Mark

Nothing. I found it odd that some members here refer to it as the 17 Hornady Hornet. No other forum that I belong to does that. I am not saying that no other forum does, I am just saying I haven't heard it until I was here. I don't get it cornfused with the 17 Ackley Hornet so I don't worry about making such a distinction especially since Hornady doesn't either.

I was just replying to the tread stating the brass was available again.