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cpurick
02-19-2013, 06:13 PM
Saw two of these "Model 11 VT" rifles at my local Dick's, a .223 and a .308. I bought the .308 for eventual conversion to .260 Rem, and took delivery with a Leupold 6-18. Savage SKU on the box is 19939.

These are 24" heavy varmint barrels with Bushnell 4-12x40 scopes, Dick's lists at $599. Savage confirms the .308 has 10" twist.

Gun has an AccuTrigger. Black synthetic stock is unique -- beavertail and three swivel studs similar to a Model 12. Barrel is well floated. Overall, the gun feels heavy.

I didn't realize this was a retailer special until I went to look it up and couldn't find anything remotely like it on Savage's site. I really wanted a heavy barrel 308 for my .260 LR project, and I was pretty close to buying a Rem 700 SPS Varmint until I saw this. Savage makes a better candidate for barrel swaps, so I picked it up.

maclowry
02-19-2013, 06:18 PM
Good deal.
Is the bolt release on the side?

cpurick
02-19-2013, 06:30 PM
In front of the trigger.

You know, it occurs to me that I don't know for sure that Savage wasn't already selling these to Dick's. But the lady at Savage who looked up the specs had never heard of the series before, so I'm assuming they're new.

futr_trooper
02-19-2013, 07:26 PM
pictures please

tobnpr
02-19-2013, 08:04 PM
I really wanted a heavy barrel 308 for my .260 LR project, and I was pretty close to buying a Rem 700 SPS Varmint until I saw this. Savage makes a better candidate for barrel swaps, so I picked it up.

You mean it's going to be easier to sell the varmint barrel as a take-off?

cpurick
02-20-2013, 02:08 AM
Bolt release in front of the trigger -- my bad.

And, no, the varmint barrel's not an easy sale. But it will be nice to know that whatever heavy barrel I buy, it'll still fit this same stock.

Wtlj
02-22-2013, 08:49 AM
Hi I'm new to the forum and very interested in this gun! Does anyone know more about it? Is it the accustock, I don't even see anything remotely like it on savages website! Is the barrel the same as any other model.

pitsnipe
02-22-2013, 12:09 PM
It sounds the same as my Mdl 10 FLCP-K Accu Stock. With DBM, bottom bolt release (in front of the trigger) and two sling studs up front. One of these days Ill get a pic of mine back on here. The last ones I posted went away with the new site.
Good Shootin yer new gun!

Wtlj
02-22-2013, 02:19 PM
It sounds the same as my Mdl 10 FLCP-K Accu Stock. With DBM, bottom bolt release (in front of the trigger) and two sling studs up front. One of these days Ill get a pic of mine back on here. The last ones I posted went away with the new site.
Good Shootin yer new gun!

Well I just got off the phone with savage. The gun is a dicks only exclusive. Here's the specs:
-24" heavy barrel
-9:1 twist
-accutrigger
-black synthetic stock (not accustock)
-4-12x40 bushnell scope
$599

Still torn between this one and the 111 trophy combo with Nikon bdc

cpurick
02-22-2013, 03:25 PM
9" twist would have to be the .223. They told me the .308 is 10".

cpurick
02-22-2013, 03:30 PM
Yes, the stock is similar to the FCP-K, though I doubt it's an AccuStock. I'll know more about the stock when I tear it down next week to put the .260 barrel on it.

Wtlj
02-22-2013, 04:55 PM
9" twist would have to be the .223. They told me the .308 is 10".

Yes your correct 9" on .223 and 10" on .308. What do you think about the rifle? Do you think it would suit me well for my first rifle in the target/varmint hunting category. I'm still debating on caliber between the .223 and .308 but I did like the gun. Just find it odd it's not savages model or lineup. Wondering if they cheap out on certain aspects and if I should go with a regular 111 trophy model with the Nikon BDC scope.
Thanks
Terry

Wtlj
02-22-2013, 07:29 PM
9" twist would have to be the .223. They told me the .308 is 10".

What did you pay for your .308?

Jronin8
02-22-2013, 11:51 PM
I picked this very gun up today at Dick's in .308. I believe it is very much the FP-SR with a DBM. Also I got it for 549.99. The best price I could find on the FP-SR $642.99 with a msrp of $775.00. Just an FYI.
John

cpurick
02-23-2013, 09:22 PM
FP is AccuStock. I suspect this one is not. Plus, with the new-style action that has the bolt release by the trigger guard, there may not be as many options for upgrading the stock.

That said, I'm happy I got it over the Axis and the Rem 700 as a short action barrel swap platform. I already have a 26" .260 Rem barrel in transit, and I'm thinking about getting one chambered in .243 as well. It's a lot cheaper to be collecting barrels than guns.

EDIT: Turns out the FP-SR is not AccuStock. So this could be a similar stock, only with a 24" varmint barrel. But it does appear to be a different action than the FP-SR. Since this has the trigger-guard bolt release, the stocks might only be outwardly similar. But I do agree that the 11VT and the 10FP appear to be similar rifles, including the fact that both are available in .223 and .308.

Wtlj
02-23-2013, 09:42 PM
FP is AccuStock. I suspect this one is not. Plus, with the new-style action that has the bolt release by the trigger guard, there may not be as many options for upgrading the stock.

That said, I'm happy I got it over the Axis and the Rem 700 as a short action barrel swap platform. I already have a 26" .260 Rem barrel in transit, and I'm thinking about getting one chambered in .243 as well. It's a lot cheaper to be collecting barrels than guns.

cpurick, would you be so kind to give me the overall weight of the gun along with the barrel diameter at the muzzle, if you have a caliper to do so.
Also how do you change calibers is it just as easy as ordering different caliber barrels or do you have to change bolt, magazine etc., do you have to stay in same class of calibers or could get a .223 and ..308 out of the same gun?

IA_shooter
02-24-2013, 09:14 AM
It sounds like this model has a stock I could use for my .243 build. :confused:

I'm wanting a stock that has the wider beavertail forend in a 4.4" action spacing with the new bolt release on the front of the trigger that will take a bull barrel. I wonder if Savage would sell me just the stock? :confused:

cpurick
02-24-2013, 10:57 AM
Yeah, I plan to get a .243 barrel for mine as well, probably with an 8" twist.

IA_shooter
02-24-2013, 11:28 AM
That's exactly what I have coming from Jim @ NSS. A 28" Criterion SS 1 in 8 twist bull/competition barrel. I'm just having a heck of a time trying to find a suitable stock. :mad:

BoilerUP
02-24-2013, 12:17 PM
I was wrong...

Wtlj
02-24-2013, 02:02 PM
I was wrong...

About what?

ellobo
02-24-2013, 03:39 PM
., do you have to stay in same class of calibers or could get a .223 and ..308 out of the same gun?

Yes you can but be aware that going from .223 to .308 or any cartridge with a larger cartradge head dia means changing the bolt head and baffle at least. The beauty of Savages is that you can change everything to your liking, you just have to be aware that older rifles sometime need different things changed due to Savage's penchant for changing things without teling us.

El Lobo

cpurick
02-26-2013, 09:54 PM
Yep, I bought the 11VT in .308, and I just got a 26" .260 barrel for it. Next I'm getting a 26" .243, and I might even put a longer .308 barrel on it at some point. Since they're all based on the same casing, the only thing you need to change out is the barrel. They even use the same headspace gauges.

If I went with the .223 I couldn't do this, though if I really wanted a .224 I could do it cheaper with a .22-250, which uses the same bolt and can probably be made to work with the same mag.

Wtlj
02-26-2013, 10:00 PM
Yep, I bought the 11VT in .308, and I just got a 26" .260 barrel for it. Next I'm getting a 26" .243, and I might even put a longer .308 barrel on it at some point. Since they're all based on the same casing, the only thing you need to change out is the barrel. They even use the same headspace gauges.

If I went with the .223 I couldn't do this, though if I really wanted a .224 I could do it cheaper with a .22-250, which uses the same bolt and can probably be made to work with the same mag.

How much are those barrels costing you and where are you buying them?

cpurick
02-27-2013, 09:09 AM
Jim at Northland Shooters Supply. Good prefit barrels are about $300, which is cheaper, faster and more convenient than having them made to order by the very same shops. You're gonna need some tools, too, and Jim has some of those as well.

You have to work patiently to get through to Jim, as his line is always busy. It's worth the effort.

http://www.savageshooters.com/forumdisplay.php?43-Northland-Shooters-Supply

jonbearman
02-28-2013, 02:16 AM
They are special order(contract) rifles that are exclusive to dicks. I know other companies that do this as well and they wont be in a catalog or on the web as a normal number such as the model 10/12. They make so many and then they are gone similar to jerrys sport exclusives and davidsons I believe.

expfcwintergreen
03-03-2013, 07:45 AM
cpurick, would you be so kind to give me the overall weight of the gun along with the barrel diameter at the muzzle
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+1.
I am also interested in the weight and the barrel diameter at the muzzle if anyone knows, and is it the same for both the .223 and the .308?

cpurick
03-03-2013, 01:33 PM
Sorry, can't give the weight as I've already swapped out the barrel and scope and added a bipod. I can say it's heavy enough that you should be able to shoot it all day in .308 without giving your shoulder a workout. Recoil is a complete non-issue shooting 120 grain .260 Rem after upgrading to a 26" barrel.

I believe the OD of the 24" barrel at the muzzle is just over .8"/20mm. There's a bevel at the tip, and the washer-shaped flat area around the recessed crown is about 18mm across.

I would expect the .223 contour to be identical.

The rifle uses the smaller of Savage's two common shank diameters. It comes with the smooth barrel nut, which was a complete nightmare to remove even with Jim's action wrench. There's simply no way to grip the nut without damaging it. Eventually I turned it with a pipe wrench against bare metal (after stripping the finish off the nut and chewing into the metal a bit). I also had some problems with the action slipping in the action wrench, but there's no damage that I can detect.

expfcwintergreen
03-03-2013, 04:52 PM
I believe the OD of the 24" barrel at the muzzle is just over .8"/20mm.
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Thank you. I am getting back in to target shooting after 30+ years of not firing a gun and am looking for rifles with heavy barrels. If either of the DSG's in Memphis has the .308, I will probably buy it this week.

Wtlj
03-03-2013, 05:53 PM
I bought the .223 model, any scope recommendations cpurick?

expfcwintergreen
03-04-2013, 09:31 AM
Wtlj wrote:
I bought the .223 model, any scope recommendations cpurick?
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Did it not come with the Bushnell 4-12X40 scope like Savage told you?

Wtlj
03-04-2013, 10:07 AM
Yes Bushnell 4x12x40 sharpshooter

cpurick
03-04-2013, 12:07 PM
I'm not qualified to recommend a scope.

I upgraded because just about everything's better than a package scope, and because I'm planning to use this rifle for half-mile shooting -- which is the same reason I rebarreled to .260 Remington.

thomae
03-04-2013, 07:22 PM
Upfront disclaimer: I get no kickbacks from Dick's Sporting Goods (DSG), and am not an employee thereof.

Today, I went into my local DSG to see if they had a specimen on the rack. I had not even finished my "Do you have the new Savage..." when the CSR behind the counter smiled and pointed to the top rack. "I thought you would be in sooner or later to look at these," he quipped. He and I have had a lot of very good rifle discussions over the past few years and he knows me as a Savage guy.

Anyway, I looked at the rifle. It is relatively heavy. I didn't have a scale, but I'd guess about 10+ pounds at least, not what you want for walking around the woods rifle, but fine for shooting off a rest. The stock has the wider beavertail and although it flexed when I applied pressure with my hand, I would guess that there was enough room between the stock and barrel that even with shooting from a bipod, the stock would not touch the barrel. (Those of you who have tried it may certainly correct me if I am wrong...I'm just guessing here).

One interesting thing my friend behind the counter did say was that most of DSG discounts specifically exclude firearms, but if you open up a new DSG credit card account, you could get 10% off anything, including firearms, that would bring the pre-tax $599 price down to $539.10.

That's what I know.

pg637b
03-09-2013, 10:38 PM
Is the vt barrel stainless

expfcwintergreen
03-10-2013, 05:26 AM
Is the vt barrel stainless?
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I haven't seen it yet (I hope to today), but at $600, I doubt it. That seems like too good price for a heavy barreled rifle with even a marginal scope to also have a stainless steel barrel.

shovelheadave
03-10-2013, 08:49 AM
Probably not S/S, the whole thing is matte black.

Wtlj
03-10-2013, 10:35 AM
I have one in .223 its all matte black. I love it. I need a bipod and sling for the gun any suggestions. Don't mind spending good money on the best.

1ShotKing
03-10-2013, 01:14 PM
Someone should post a picture!

Wtlj
03-10-2013, 02:15 PM
http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a552/williamleojr/D70B5A49-A4B9-4EEC-A22E-5C2F9C9DEE9B-1717-0000014B1D627624_zps5a291fa1.jpg

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a552/williamleojr/778B9FD7-0420-434B-874A-958670D7A09F-1717-0000014B3C091E54_zps0ebe53e5.jpg

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a552/williamleojr/0E8CEBEE-BFA5-4A2F-9F44-3DBA89ED42A6-1717-0000014AC155004F_zpsff0c89ae.jpg

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a552/williamleojr/464E9D9D-B7E8-4CFD-99F1-D91E43A3B661-1717-0000014AC43532E2_zpsb901b1a9.jpg

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/a552/williamleojr/391F6437-FEE3-4F62-9F4F-CC56CB875D90-1717-0000014ACB0E7D1C_zps10ed16f7.jpg

Let me know if you guys want more detailed pictures. There not the best. From my dark basement and iPhone!

1ShotKing
03-10-2013, 05:14 PM
Awesome, thanks. Looks like an awesome rifle for the price.

jonbearman
03-10-2013, 05:21 PM
Dicks does exclusive's aa the time by deleting certain items like the accustock,they can compete with remington and others.It is just like a line item delete they do on cars and trucks and when you get it you soon realize why it was a bargain.Just a heads up,if you bought the remington,northlanders has criterion remage barrel packages so you can change them out just like a savage with the remage nut.

eabernstein
03-10-2013, 09:48 PM
I am looking to buy either the new heavy barrel DSG Savage m11-VT, or Remington 700 SPS Varmint, in .308. Need advice as to the comparison between the two. In Savage, I am not too crazy about AccuTrigger, but I like DBM. In Remington trigger is nice, but no DBM, and the barrel did not look like free-floating. I would like to do target shooting at 200yards, working myself up to 500.
Would anyone care to comment on the overall quality of the two, how susceptible are they for mods. I thought that it was Remington action that people would buy and put new barrels on.

Wtlj
03-11-2013, 09:11 PM
Dicks does exclusive's aa the time by deleting certain items like the accustock,they can compete with remington and others.It is just like a line item delete they do on cars and trucks and when you get it you soon realize why it was a bargain.Just a heads up,if you bought the remington,northlanders has criterion remage barrel packages so you can change them out just like a savage with the remage nut.

I disagree with them being sub-par. The only reason they sell store exclusives is to please that market. If they made the same gun for everyone the price would be higher! This just means they don't have to lower their standards to compete in big box stores, add 1-2 different parts and they have a different model that cant be compared (price wise) with another one of their guns. There's nothing cheaper on that gun than any other gun they build.

expfcwintergreen
03-21-2013, 01:30 PM
Have any of you who purchased the Model 11 VT been to the range with it yet? Can you report back what is the best group you've shot with it, the average group, and how satisfied you are with it?

i have been torturing myself with which .223 to buy. I think I have finally settled on Savage because of being able to change the barrel myself. It is down to this one or spending much more money to buy one of the Savage target or varmint actions along with a Shilen bull or varmint barrel and who knows what stock that NSS sells.

nking1776
03-26-2013, 03:46 PM
Member "Shoalwater" has a post up on his recent VT purchase.

MikeA67
03-26-2013, 07:02 PM
I'm not an expert and I have no idea where the budgets are but this scope looks to be very popular in some of the
sniper/shooting forums where I lurk......


http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-5-20x50-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P51653.aspx

res1n9k9
03-27-2013, 12:56 AM
Was at Dicks today and they have one of the .308 11VT that seriously looking at...been looking and researching Savage rifles for a while..so if i get it will provide some feedback on my experiences..

expfcwintergreen
03-27-2013, 09:32 AM
Thank you for the heads-up, nking1776. It was a very interesting and informative thread, as is this one.

splebeau
03-27-2013, 12:16 PM
Not sure if anyone posted this yet, but here is the Photo from Dick's online... [ http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=12270519&ab=ACLN1_Link_Rifles_PredatorVarmint ]

http://dsp.imageg.net/cms_widgets/19/10/1910423_assets/PredatorVarmintRifles_03.jpg

It includes another Savage they sell. The 11 VT is the bottom of course. Last weekend we purchased one of these, a WalMart Remmy 770 special (with scope) and a Thompson Center .308 rifle and scope special from, I believe, Bass Pro with the plan to see how they stacked up.

Outcome: The Remmy behaved as you might think a $300 rifle would behave. Most of us had trouble keeping a grouping on an 8 1/2 x 11 target sheet at 100 yds. The scope was crap.

The Thompson and the Savage both did very well. The scope on the Savage (Bushnell) was a pain to zero but once it did, it proved to be a nicer scope for the test. Most of the people we had shooting (all, by the way, were ex-military) kept a 2" or smaller grouping at 100yds. The larger (read, TALLER) people in the group picked the Savage over the Thompson for comfort reasons. They both performed very well... I wish we had been able to get a Ruger American for our test.

splebeau
03-27-2013, 12:25 PM
We had, after firing it with the stock scope, contemplated how you could turn the Walmart $298 Remington into a decent rifle and still stay under $500. We came up with Redfield Scopes, a scope company recently purchased by Leupold. Specifically there Revenge with the accu-ranger feature found locally for $177 (someone said they thought Dick's had them but I hadn't had a chance to check)

http://redfield.com/redfield-revenge/

Not sure how this goes with a sniper quality scope, however. Sorry.

762X51
03-27-2013, 05:02 PM
The bottom "metal" is actually plastic, as is the trigger guard plus, while it LOOKS like the typical Savage detachable mag set up, it's really some sort of mutt that uses Axis magazines. Mine won't feed the last round from the magazine. HUGE disappointment.

Wtlj
03-28-2013, 06:42 PM
The bottom "metal" is actually plastic, as is the trigger guard plus, while it LOOKS like the typical Savage detachable mag set up, it's really some sort of mutt that uses Axis magazines. Mine won't feed the last round from the magazine. HUGE disappointment.

Not sure why you emphasize "metal" is it listed somewhere that its metal??? Most gun manufacturers are now using poly and plastic (ruger, savage, remington etc.) while you may think its cheap its been proven to stand the test of time and bring weight down on the rifle. On the magazine issue savage uses this same setups on other rifles other than the axis, some of their higher end models also. It sounds like you have a defective magazine as mine cycles perfectly with no issues time and time again. When buying a mass produced "value" rifle you cannot expect perfection. You already know savage will take care of the issue and it very well could've happened with a $2000 rifle.

splebeau
03-29-2013, 12:18 PM
The bottom "metal" is actually plastic, as is the trigger guard plus, while it LOOKS like the typical Savage detachable mag set up, it's really some sort of mutt that uses Axis magazines. Mine won't feed the last round from the magazine. HUGE disappointment.

I'm with Wtlj on this one. I've now fired over 100 rnds thru my Savage 11 VT and haven't had any issues (I have, however, had an issue with my Hornady ammo). I'll have to check my rifle when I get home... I don't recall the trigger guard being plastic? My only gripe with the magazines is their short supply locally.

762X51
03-29-2013, 07:04 PM
I'm with Wtlj on this one. I've now fired over 100 rnds thru my Savage 11 VT and haven't had any issues (I have, however, had an issue with my Hornady ammo). I'll have to check my rifle when I get home... I don't recall the trigger guard being plastic? My only gripe with the magazines is their short supply locally.

Unless your rifle is special or Savage changed the specs you'll find both the trigger guard and the magazine frame are plastic. There is nothing wrong with that except it looks exactly like their true metallic bottom metal sets and I thought some folks might like to know it is in fact plastic. The matte finish on the plastic looks just like the matte finish on the metal parts and until I actually disassembled the rifle I though it was metal like my model 10 PC. AGAIN there's nothing wrong with the plastic and it is fully interchangeable with the metal components should anyone wish to upgrade in the future. One plus to this system, versus say the Axis, is that should the tiny little front and rear shelves, that the magazine latches into in the mag frame, wear, the mag frame can easily be replaced.

762X51
03-29-2013, 07:23 PM
When buying a mass produced "value" rifle you cannot expect perfection.

I certainly don't expect perfection for $550 but I ABSOLUTELY expect it to at least function. I don't expect high polish bluing. I don't expect highly figured Claro Walnut. I don't expect hand lapped parts. I don't expect high relief engraving. I don't expect billet machined components. I DO expect it to work though. A $369 Ruger American works as does my $257 Axis so why is it so unbelievable that I'd expect my model 11 to work properly? I don't expect a $300 push mower to have all the features that a $7000 zero turn machine would BUT I DO expect it to cut grass. A bolt action repeating rifle really only has to do three simple things: feed, fire and eject. If it can't do those three things it may as well be a break action single shot.

splebeau
04-01-2013, 09:30 AM
I'm missing something... 762X51, does your model 11 NOT work properly? I JUST bought mine (only a couple 100 rounds fired) and have had no issues. If you're experiencing issues I'd really like to know what they are just in case it proves to be a problem for the entire line and not just a single rifle.

762X51
04-01-2013, 07:36 PM
I'm missing something... 762X51, does your model 11 NOT work properly?

No it does not (See my post #52) . It will not pick up the last round from the magazine. I was able to swap magazines with my 223 Axis and the model 11VT will feed all the rounds (most of the time) from that particular magazine but it's really almost unacceptable that just the minute manufacturing tolerances present in the magazines are enough to keep the rifle from functioning. Honestly if one wanted more magazines for one of these rifles I'd suggest ordering several and then trying them to see which ones actually work. Savage's reputation for accuracy is well deserved but In my experience they also have a reputation for balky functioning. I'm not a newbie at this whole rifle thing and I have owned and used Remington 700s, Winchester model 70s (both pre-64 and later push feeds) Ruger M77s (again push feeds and the later controlled round feed models) as well as commercial Mauser actions and I can say with first hand experience that Savage rifles have the greatest propensity to malfunction than any other bolt action rifle that I've ever personally used. My first Precision Carbine would extract the fired case but leave it lying atop the next round in the magazine. My model 16 Weather Warrior would not feed the last two cartridges out of the magazine since the magazine was about 1/8" short of fully seating against the base of the receiver and now my 11VT won't feed the last round from SOME magazines unless I apply upward pressure to the rear of the magazine base. All of these problems may be deemed fixable but the last thing I want to do with a new rifle is fix it. Too late to make a long story short, but to answer your question, I do not think there is any "issue" concerning this particular model of rifle other than Savage's typical QC problems. If you got a rifle that will feed all the cartridges and extract and eject the spent casings then thank your lucky stars and congratulations. I'm almost certain your rifle will prove accurate. My 223 Axis is one of the most accurate rifles I've ever owned, plus it works!

splebeau
04-02-2013, 10:17 AM
I'm sure glad I read these posts before recommending this gun to others. Were the Axis .223 mags chambered in .308?

762X51
04-02-2013, 07:36 PM
I'm sure glad I read these posts before recommending this gun to others. Were the Axis .223 mags chambered in .308?

I'm not sure I completely understand your question but both my Axis and 11VT are chambered in .223. An Axis magazine for a 308 will not retain or feed 223 cartridges since the lips are too wide to retain the cartridges and there is a block in the 223 mags to hold the cartridges forward in the magazine. Savage rifles have a lot of pluses; the user changeable barrels, the floating bolt head and the changeable bolt handle for instance. I think that if you could test a rifle's function before actually purchasing it you could make absolutely certain it works before you buy it. Alas, I don't think that's an option with the 11VT since I don't think Dick's will remove the trigger lock let alone allow you to cycle a magazine full of dummy cartridges through the rifle. I think that should I EVER buy another Savage rifle I'll insist on function testing it. If you can do this, take one empty cartridge and enough dummy loads to fill the magazine. Test the extraction and ejection with the empty then test the magazine and the rifle's feeding ability with the dummies. If the rifle balks at ejecting the dummies don't write it off since it was designed to eject an empty cartridge without the extra weight of a projectile (this will be more obvious the larger the caliber). If it will eject a loaded cartridge so much the better but it MUST eject an empty. As long as you can function test the rifle you're considering buying (and it works) there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Savage rifle but in my experience there are far too many that leave the factory half-assed.

JerseyBiker
05-05-2013, 12:27 PM
I saw the Savage 11 VT today in a DSG ad in this morning's newspaper. It is on sale for $500. I currently have a Ruger 10/22 rifle, a Thompson Center 50 cal muzzle loader and a Remington 870 12 gauge. I want to add a high power rifle to use for target practice at Fort Dix, NJ. I don't want to spend a lot of money but I would like the best bang for the buck as a starter rifle. Though I did shoot M14 and M16's in The Marine Corps back in the mid 70's, I don't really know much about high caliber civilian rifles. Would this be a good choice for target practicing and are there maybe better choices at this price range? Thanks

HobbyShooter
05-05-2013, 02:02 PM
For the price, I think its pretty hard to beat. I got mine two weeks ago and have put a couple hundred rounds through it so far with no feed issues at all. I'm not a huge fan of the scope. I plan on selling it and buying a SWFA scope. With the faster 1:10 twist rate, it really favors the 168 and 175 grain bullets. I haven't tried anything heavier yet. I'm a new shooter and my groups are in the 1.5" range at 100 yards, but I expect to reach sub MOA with more practice and better positioning.

ellobo
05-05-2013, 10:16 PM
Be aware that Savage barrels can copper up quickly when new. If accuracy drops off, clean out the copper with a solution made for it. Make sure the barrel and tang is free floated and you should be good to go. Those 11VT's so far have a good reputations. I think you did well on this one. Savage barrels seem to shoot more acurately when dirty so dont be too quick to clean until, like with copper, accuracy drops off.
el Lobo

JerseyBiker
05-06-2013, 10:08 AM
For the price, I think its pretty hard to beat. I got mine two weeks ago and have put a couple hundred rounds through it so far with no feed issues at all.

Thanks for the reply. I went to Dick's yesterday to check it out. They had 2 in stock but both were the 223 models. I want a 308. Today I am going to travel a ways to a gun shop with a buddy of mine that know a lot more than me. He say's there are probably similar models of the Dick's Savage VT 11 there.

JerseyBiker
05-08-2013, 02:48 PM
It took a lot of running around but I finally picked up a 11 VT in .308. I called a DSG about 30 miles away that said they had one in stock. When I got there I was told someone made a mistake because they did not have any. Needless to say I was quite disappointed and angry for driving so far for nothing. That DSG called another DSG store that was another 35 miles further North. It was confirmed they had the 11 VT I wanted. I made the trip to the second DSG and did indeed purchased the 11 VT. It's been some years since I last purchased a firearm. I purchased the gun but I will not be able to pick it up for about 2 weeks because of the background check process. They had a trigger lock on it and after the took the lock off I was not allowed to touch it anymore. They put it in it's box, took me to the register to pay for it and they took it away. Now I have over 100 mile round trip to pick it up. One good thing is that I got $80 in additional discount. $50 discount for opening a DSG credit card account and I'll receive about $30 back in rewards point which means I purchased the rifle for $420

HobbyShooter
05-11-2013, 12:52 AM
It took a lot of running around but I finally picked up a 11 VT in .308. I called a DSG about 30 miles away that said they had one in stock. When I got there I was told someone made a mistake because they did not have any. Needless to say I was quite disappointed and angry for driving so far for nothing. That DSG called another DSG store that was another 35 miles further North. It was confirmed they had the 11 VT I wanted. I made the trip to the second DSG and did indeed purchased the 11 VT. It's been some years since I last purchased a firearm. I purchased the gun but I will not be able to pick it up for about 2 weeks because of the background check process. They had a trigger lock on it and after the took the lock off I was not allowed to touch it anymore. They put it in it's box, took me to the register to pay for it and they took it away. Now I have over 100 mile round trip to pick it up. One good thing is that I got $80 in additional discount. $50 discount for opening a DSG credit card account and I'll receive about $30 back in rewards point which means I purchased the rifle for $420

Congratulations on the purchase! I like mine more and more as I keep shooting it. Today I shot a .8 MOA group at 100 yards and a .72 MOA group at 200 yards with some 168 grain FGMM ammo. That was with a gusty wind too. My only gripe is still the scope. It's very finicky about eye relief at high magnification and the turret clicks are hard to feel, as in unpredictable. When I try adjusting several clicks in any direction, I find myself trying to figure out if I had just turned 2 or 3 clicks often. Very nonpositive, if that were a word.

But the rifle itself is all aces in my book.

HobbyShooter
05-11-2013, 12:53 AM
Also, be aware that the magazine is very stiff at first. The first 10 to 15 times I loaded it up and snapped it into position were a little tricky. It's loosened up enough now that it's easy to pop into place.

JerseyBiker
05-11-2013, 08:11 AM
Congratulations on the purchase! I like mine more and more as I keep shooting it. Today I shot a .8 MOA group at 100 yards and a .72 MOA group at 200 yards with some 168 grain FGMM ammo. That was with a gusty wind too. My only gripe is still the scope. It's very finicky about eye relief at high magnification and the turret clicks are hard to feel, as in unpredictable. When I try adjusting several clicks in any direction, I find myself trying to figure out if I had just turned 2 or 3 clicks often. Very nonpositive, if that were a word.

But the rifle itself is all aces in my book.

Thanks. I can't wait to have my Savage in my possession. This is my first high power rifle so I have a lot to learn. I never used a scope before. I have a Ruger 22 but never mounted a scope on it. A good friend of mine who has several high power rifles is going to teach me the ins and outs.

Jailcop1964
06-07-2013, 10:21 PM
I just picked up one yesterday, anyone have any suggestions on what stock I can buy to replace the original one. This is my first bolt action and would like to build it for 400-500 yard shooting.

HobbyShooter
06-07-2013, 11:37 PM
I plan on taking mine out to 800+ yards with the factory stock. I've replaced the scope mount with a one piece Weaver unit and the scope rings have been swapped for some Weaver rings and I'm getting sub MOA groups most times I go out. Lately, I've been experimenting with different powder charges and had a series of .25 to .5 MOA 3 shot groups and I'm new to shooting bolt action as well.

Here's a target from yesterday. I've switched to 175 SMKs from 168, so I haven't found that .5 MOA or less combination yet. The white squares are close to .75" across.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h237/TsiTalons_photos/Miscelaneous/IMAG0809_zpse6ea0ff4.jpg

Jailcop1964
06-08-2013, 07:52 AM
HobbyShooter, what scope are you using? also how good is having a dual pillared stock like the 11VT has compared to a fully bedded stock?

brasse
06-09-2013, 05:33 PM
The plastic magazines are essentially all the same. Same part number for a Axis, Models 10,11, and 16 TH. They are different for calibers,
I have purchased two additional ones for my DBM Creedmoor. Listed for 308, 260, 6.5 Creedmoor, 243, and 7-08. Savage Axis P/N 107989Holds four and gets better with each time used. I sent one off to Ratmag to be turned into a 10 rounder.

HobbyShooter
06-12-2013, 12:14 AM
HobbyShooter, what scope are you using? also how good is having a dual pillared stock like the 11VT has compared to a fully bedded stock?

Still using the factory scope and I still think it's just about useless for what I need it to do. I'm sure a fully bedded stock would be better, but at my skill level (or lack thereof) I don't know if I'd be able to see a difference in my groups.


The plastic magazines are essentially all the same. Same part number for a Axis, Models 10,11, and 16 TH. They are different for calibers,
I have purchased two additional ones for my DBM Creedmoor. Listed for 308, 260, 6.5 Creedmoor, 243, and 7-08. Savage Axis P/N 107989Holds four and gets better with each time used. I sent one off to Ratmag to be turned into a 10 rounder.

True. I bought a DBM mag for a .308 Axis and it fits my rifle perfectly. They do fit better with use, don't they.

Sitting Duck
06-12-2013, 02:02 AM
I bought my 11VT in .308 last March and this is my take on it.

Pros: Heavy barreled guns, I like. Fit and finish is very good. Equally as good as the R700 sitting next to it when I bought it. DBM I like as well as the smooth barrel nut. The stock is free-floated and acceptable but I'll replace it down the road. The sling mount works fine with a Harris bipod with no rigging. The Accutrigger works fine but is butt ugly.

Cons: I don't like the trigger guard front bolt release function as well as my old R700. The magazine issue has been addressed but my problem wasn't with the last round but the first. The bolt would skim right over the top and leave it in the magazine. The extraction ring on the cartridge was catching on the back metal of the magazine causing it to dive instead of surface. I have to push the last round loaded up to the front of the magazine to overcome this. The other rounds feed fine.

That's it. I like the looks plenty fine and the heft of the rifle. My groups are nothing to brag about at 1+ MOA at 100 but my rifle w/bipod hops a lot so I have some technique issues to work out. As far as the Bushnell Sharpshooter scope goes I never used it. I'll stick it on a .22 someday.

For the money, I feel I received a good value.

kwiq4u2006
06-22-2013, 06:15 PM
Would anyone suggest a new stock for this Bobby hart or Boyds laminate? If I do this it needs to be a blind mag I read how to do this but i need a scope I was thinking sniper brand ? With high Mount rings? Please help my first build

HobbyShooter
06-25-2013, 01:29 AM
I can't help you with the stock since I haven't looked into options yet.

The scope is entirely up to you and really depends on what you're going to use the rifle for, what features you want, and what you can afford.

The rings need to both keep the scope off the barrel, and position the scope so that when you take a natural cheek weld, your sight picture is usable. I've heard the best way to position a scope is to close your eyes, shoulder the rifle, and then open your eyes. The scope should be positioned so that you can open your eyes and have a good sight picture without having to move your head around. Whether that will require low, medium, high, or even extra high rings depends on that sight picture and the need to keep the scope's objective lens off the barrel.

Jailcop1964
06-27-2013, 10:19 PM
I just received a set of Weaver "six hole tactical" picatinny rings and 20 moa mount. I'll mount them to a Weaver Kaspa extreme tactical 3x12x44 scope. I have a Choate Tactical stock on order. This is my first build of a bolt action Savage, I'm looking to get my hands on a 10FP-SR or a 10P with the threaded 5R barrel as my next project.

plinkin
07-04-2013, 03:32 AM
One interesting thing my friend behind the counter did say was that most of DSG discounts specifically exclude firearms, but if you open up a new DSG credit card account, you could get 10% off anything, including firearms, that would bring the pre-tax $599 price down to $539.10.

That's what I know.


I was looking at a .223 & .22-250 in the 11VT last night at my local Dick's in Erie County. They are now priced at $499. That is lower priced that most used .22-250s I see & less than a M25 lightweight walking varminter. Although the stocks seem somewhat unique they are cheap feeling & back by the tang safety you can see the action and stock do not mate well. I also don't care for the jelly like recoil pad. OK other than the stock (and the scope) it is a heck of a deal. I asked them what calibers they came in. I was sure there was a .308 but they didn't say but this thread confirmed it. Do they come in .204?

thomae
07-04-2013, 07:08 AM
... back by the tang safety you can see the action and stock do not mate well.
It is generally understood that the Savage Rifle works best with the tang fully floated, so a slight gap between the tang and the stock is actually considered ideal.

plinkin
07-04-2013, 03:18 PM
Would anyone suggest a new stock for this Bobby hart or Boyds laminate? If I do this it needs to be a blind mag I read how to do this but i need a scope I was thinking sniper brand ? With high Mount rings? Please help my first build

I could be wrong but I think the "Sniper" brand scopes are made by Leapers which makes many other brands of scope. You could find the exact same scope in a Leapers for less.

plinkin
07-04-2013, 03:24 PM
It is generally understood that the Savage Rifle works best with the tang fully floated, so a slight gap between the tang and the stock is actually considered ideal.

Last night as I was reading this long thread I had not got that far into the thread to see that post. That I wasn't aware of until minutes before reading what you posted Thomae. I suppose now that I know this I will pay closer attention. I should check the B.Mag to see what is is like. I do like the rifle. I was hoping that someone would have chimed in on available calibers. Are they only .223, .22-250 & .308?

Sitting Duck
07-04-2013, 07:22 PM
Dick's, in Tucson, said the VT 11 would only be offered in .233 and .308. Unless DSG changed their offering which is possible.

I purchased the .308 and like it a lot. Paid $549 for mine though.

plinkin
07-04-2013, 10:36 PM
Dick's, in Tucson, said the VT 11 would only be offered in .233 and .308. Unless DSG changed their offering which is possible.

I purchased the .308 and like it a lot. Paid $549 for mine though.


Unless they are mistaken. I didn't confirm there was a .308 at the local store but I physically held the .223 & .22-250 . I am sure there is no 204 Ruger as my M25 204 I bought last year from Dick's was the 1st in that caliber they ever sold, excuse me, 1st .204 ever.

I don't have any use for a .223, after comparing Hornady loads in 204, 223 & 22-250 in 40gr. At 500yd the 40gr 204 drops 11 inches less than the 223 does and it has more energy than the 223 does at 350 yd. At 150yd the 204 40gr has more energy & speed than the 22-250 40gr does at 150yd & at 500yd it barely has less energy than the 22-250 does at 400yd. The only benefit the 22-250 has is the availability of heavier bullets. I might be wrong.

s002wjh
07-05-2013, 05:42 PM
It is generally understood that the Savage Rifle works best with the tang fully floated, so a slight gap between the tang and the stock is actually considered ideal.

what do you mean by "tang floated"??

plinkin
07-05-2013, 05:47 PM
what do you mean by "tang floated"??

You know, when the astronauts drink Tang in zero gravity.

plinkin
07-05-2013, 05:49 PM
what do you mean by "tang floated"??

The tang area, near the safety, it doesn't rest on the stock, it "floats."

kerazy1
07-06-2013, 07:54 PM
My son bought one in .308 back in October for $499. It came with a Nikon scope. An unbelievable deal. The rifle is a tack driver. No issues with it at all...except he doesn't like me shooting it. I have been working up some handloads for it and he doesn't like me changing the scope adjustments. He is fifteen and saved his money for a long time to buy this rifle. I explained to him that it is the only way to find the most accurate load for his rifle. I bought two more model 11's a .223 and a .243 from a private party. Both are also excellent rifles. Savage makes a great rifle.IMHO

HobbyShooter
07-08-2013, 07:50 PM
The rifle is a tack driver. No issues with it at all...except he doesn't like me shooting it. I have been working up some handloads for it and he doesn't like me changing the scope adjustments. He is fifteen and saved his money for a long time to buy this rifle. I explained to him that it is the only way to find the most accurate load for his rifle.

I think I just found the sweet spot for my .308 11VT this morning with IMR 4895 and 175 SMK's. Seating right at the lands (no jump or jam) and 41.4 grains, I shot a .36" group at 132 yards.

Can't wait to try Varget or Reloader 15 since those seem to be the preferred powders for a .308.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h237/TsiTalons_photos/Miscelaneous/53002be3-e6f8-4133-954d-a058e2f47375_zps31942ba7.jpg

Jailcop1964
07-12-2013, 10:02 PM
Just got the 11VT put back together, the way she sits now
1. Harris 6/9 bipod
2. Choate tactical fully bedded stock
3.Weaver 20 moa base mount
4. Weaver tactical 30mm six hole scope rings
5. Weaver Kaspa 3x12x44 tactical scope with the TBX illuminated reticle
Now I just have to find time to shoot it.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3778/9278154176_9ba6fd64ac_b.jpghttp://farm6.staticflickr.com/5523/9278154868_aef5fa059f_b.jpg

stabwound
07-16-2013, 04:09 PM
In June I purchased the .308 version. I love the rifle and it shoots well. The scope seems pretty decent for a package but will get replaced at some point. The first thing I would like to do is get a higher capacity magazine for my 11VT. Sadly it looks like the one guy producing 10 round mags had to stop due to the stupid Colorado gun laws (thank God I live in PA). It looks like through Sharp Shooter Supply you can get a new magazine assembly frame to use the 9 round magazine they sell. I emailed for clarification and will let you all know if anyone is interested. Happy shooting, Jeremy

Hubcap91
07-16-2013, 10:13 PM
New here. I have the .308 11VT and love it. Mine came with a Bushnell scope which seems sufficient for my needs. If you are interested in converting it to an all metal bottom assembly just call Savage. The only downside is that your original magazine will not work. I ordered a trigger guard, magazine frame, and the appropriate magazine for around $160. A little steep, but I got my rifle on sale for $350 so I didn't mind. They told me it should be a drop in fit. I'll update when it comes in.

Jailcop1964
07-19-2013, 05:50 PM
New here. I have the .308 11VT and love it. Mine came with a Bushnell scope which seems sufficient for my needs. If you are interested in converting it to an all metal bottom assembly just call Savage. The only downside is that your original magazine will not work. I ordered a trigger guard, magazine frame, and the appropriate magazine for around $160. A little steep, but I got my rifle on sale for $350 so I didn't mind. They told me it should be a drop in fit. I'll update when it comes in.
Hubcap, could you post the part numbers along the prices because I would like to do the same thing

Hubcap91
07-20-2013, 09:35 AM
Yeah I'll make sure to post after they arrive. I know that the frame was around $75, trigger guard $25, and magazine $55. I give the exact prices when I get my invoice.

zmadren
07-20-2013, 11:17 PM
Definetly interested in the metal conversion also hubcap91. Has anyone replaced the stock yet? Also, short action refers to my .308 caliber correct? I have a 4-16X50mm Vortex PST FFP MRAD on the way to replace the optics, what would you guys recommend I mount it with? (base and rings) New to bolt actions, purchased one to get to get into long distance shooting.

duncan92
07-21-2013, 06:07 PM
I'm interested in the bottom metal conversion parts list too once you get the invoice in. I recently bought a used 11 VT for a pretty good deal and will probably convert it along with other upgrades.

Member Shoalwater replaced the stock with a Manners T2 from Stockys. Hopefully this hyperlink works (link) (http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?23250-Manner-s-T2-on-my-Savage-11VT).

plinkin
07-21-2013, 08:52 PM
New here. I have the .308 11VT and love it. Mine came with a Bushnell scope which seems sufficient for my needs. If you are interested in converting it to an all metal bottom assembly just call Savage. The only downside is that your original magazine will not work. I ordered a trigger guard, magazine frame, and the appropriate magazine for around $160. A little steep, but I got my rifle on sale for $350 so I didn't mind. They told me it should be a drop in fit. I'll update when it comes in.

When did you get it on sale for that much? Holy cow I would litterally pull the trigger on a 22-250 for $400 if they dropped in price that much.

FW Conch
07-21-2013, 09:37 PM
"YES", "PLEASE"! Enquiring minds want to know! ???

Hubcap91
07-22-2013, 01:20 AM
I picked it up about two months ago. It wasn't advertised, I just happened to be in to look for .223 ammo. It may have been marked incorrectly, being that there was another .308, 22-250, and a .223 all there for $599. I took advantage of the situation to say the least. :)

plinkin
07-22-2013, 01:32 AM
I picked it up about two months ago. It wasn't advertised, I just happened to be in to look for .223 ammo. It may have been marked incorrectly, being that there was another .308, 22-250, and a .223 all there for $599. I took advantage of the situation to say the least. :)

Can we rub your head for the same good luck?

Hubcap91
07-24-2013, 12:08 AM
Can we rub your head for the same good luck?

Hopefully my luck continues. :) Parts came in today.
Trigger Guard- 107217 $25
Frame Assy- 106705 $78
Magazine- 55105 $50

Everything dropped right in. Very happy with it. Now I just have to get on Dark Eagle's wait list.

Hubcap91
07-24-2013, 12:48 PM
I'm sure I'm not the first to do this, but I made my old magazine work without buying a new cap from sharpshooter. All you have to do is dremel off the plastic clip and file it down. The plastic sticks out of the bottom of the gun a little because its thicker, but everything feeds fine.

zmadren
07-24-2013, 02:43 PM
What is Dark Eagle? Those are all the parts needed to convert plastic to metal?

Hubcap91
07-24-2013, 10:07 PM
Yeah those are all the parts you need. Dark Eagle makes 10 round magazines for Savage rifles. He is a one man company so you have to email to get on the list. The magazines are only compatible with the metal magazine frame, hence my reason for converting.

brasse
07-24-2013, 11:01 PM
I do love my DarkEagle. See review thread at http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?26461-Aftermarket-10-round-magazines-comparison-Ratmag-and-Darkeagle

Thank you for the part numbers.

Hubcap91
07-24-2013, 11:03 PM
No problem. Thanks for the review brasse.

dirtdigger
07-25-2013, 07:42 AM
I have just purchased one of these in 243 Win. so count me in as well! My store had only .223 & 243 in stock and I 've been wanting a 6 millie for some time, just haven't made up my mind till today what to jump on. Actually yesterday, it is past midnight already.. Can somebody else please confirm that a .223 version has 1 in 9 twist? Or I guess I could call Savage in the morning and double check. I have picked through both barrels and to me the 223's rifling seemed tighter than in the 243 but both are supposed to be the same. May be they do equip these with 1:7 or it is just my eyes, I dunno. I 'd jump on 223 in that case as well and get both on the same dross. The price is 499.95 through coming Saturday. Thanks in advance!

I registered a little while ago and was just lurking and reading. It is the second savage bolt action for me. The first was pre-accutriger laminate varminter in 22-250 with square back receiver bought over 10 years ago. So just saying "HI" to everybody:-)

BoilerUP
07-25-2013, 09:51 AM
11VT in 243?

If only it had a 1:8 barrel...

zmadren
07-25-2013, 11:27 AM
Can't wait to do this myself. With the Dark Eagles are the top loaded? The picture on the other forum kinda confused me

Hubcap91
07-25-2013, 11:45 AM
Yeah they are top loaded. If you want one Darkeagle has them in stock right now. The website says out of stock but he shipped mine today.

dirtdigger
07-26-2013, 02:21 AM
I called Savage today to inquire about the twist rate. A lady who picked up the phone transferred me to another dept. where I spoke to a gentleman named Rob and he told me that he couldn't give any details on DSG exclusives and that I had to find it out by contacting a store. Does anyone have a recommendation who should I ask for specifically since looks like somebody was able to obtain some info on these by calling the company?

jccol59
07-28-2013, 02:41 AM
I really wanted a model 12 but I could not pass this gun up for $478.## out the door with a decent scope. The 12 has a 1 and 12 twist and 26 inch barrel and the one I bought has a 1 and 10 with 24 inch barrel. I have not fired the gun as I just bought it a few hours ago but the price was incredible considering fat boy stock with bipod and sling mount, accu trigger, scope and bull barrel. I cant wait to fire this weapon it may be rated under the model 12 but for the money I invested I think it blows the model 12 away. Will let you know how it performs soon! caliber 22-250

plinkin
07-28-2013, 10:56 AM
I really wanted a model 12 but I could not pass this gun up for $478.## out the door with a decent scope. The 12 has a 1 and 12 twist and 26 inch barrel and the one I bought has a 1 and 10 with 24 inch barrel. I have not fired the gun as I just bought it a few hours ago but the price was incredible considering fat boy stock with bipod and sling mount, accu trigger, scope and bull barrel. I cant wait to fire this weapon it may be rated under the model 12 but for the money I invested I think it blows the model 12 away. Will let you know how it performs soon! caliber 22-250

Last I knew at my local Dick's they were $499, was your an advertised special?

jccol59
07-29-2013, 09:26 AM
I received 10% credit card application discount





Last I knew at my local Dick's they were $499, was your an advertised special?

plinkin
07-29-2013, 08:14 PM
I received 10% credit card application discount

That explains it! LOL and also why the guys in the Lodge gave me strange looks.

twrecks
07-30-2013, 02:05 PM
Hey all new here and have been lurking a bit. I too saw the savage VT11 at DSG and I am very intersted in it in 308. I also was looking at the Remington 700 adl varmint. Honestly I prefer the Remys stock but have heard there are several quality control issues with the newer 700's. I have read nothing but raves about the savages but I have a question. I want to attach a harris bipod to it but there seems to be a good deal of flew between the floating barrel and the foregrip. It makes me wonder if that would transfer to flex while firing therefore affecting accuracy. I am looking at shooting "stuff" from 100-300 yards and may also use it on deer, bear, zombies, at 100 or so. I like the rifle for an out of the box combo but figured I would ask here about quality, reliability and longevity issues. Thanks in advance.

Hubcap91
07-31-2013, 12:00 AM
Hey all new here and have been lurking a bit. I too saw the savage VT11 at DSG and I am very intersted in it in 308. I also was looking at the Remington 700 adl varmint. Honestly I prefer the Remys stock but have heard there are several quality control issues with the newer 700's. I have read nothing but raves about the savages but I have a question. I want to attach a harris bipod to it but there seems to be a good deal of flew between the floating barrel and the foregrip. It makes me wonder if that would transfer to flex while firing therefore affecting accuracy. I am looking at shooting "stuff" from 100-300 yards and may also use it on deer, bear, zombies, at 100 or so. I like the rifle for an out of the box combo but figured I would ask here about quality, reliability and longevity issues. Thanks in advance.

A lot of people complain about the stocks, but I've been shooting mine off a bipod with no issues or noticeable flex. If its important to you there is already a channel cut out in the stock that would be perfect for gluing in an aluminum rod. Simple fix.

duncan92
07-31-2013, 12:54 AM
I have a trophy hunter package and the 11VT. The Trophy Hunter stock is far more flexible than the 11VT. I can slightly push on it with my hand and it will touch the barrel. I put a bipod on that stock just because I'm curious as a kitten, and as I figured the stock touched the barrel and I could no longer slide a piece of paper between the two.

With the 11VT, the very front of the stock I can bend and touch the barrel, but where the swivel studs are seems to be reinforced. Even with a bipod on it doesn't seem the stock is touching the barrel because I can easily slide a piece of paper between the two.

dirtdigger
07-31-2013, 04:09 AM
I really wanted a model 12 but I could not pass this gun up for $478.## out the door with a decent scope. The 12 has a 1 and 12 twist and 26 inch barrel and the one I bought has a 1 and 10 with 24 inch barrel. I have not fired the gun as I just bought it a few hours ago but the price was incredible considering fat boy stock with bipod and sling mount, accu trigger, scope and bull barrel. I cant wait to fire this weapon it may be rated under the model 12 but for the money I invested I think it blows the model 12 away. Will let you know how it performs soon! caliber 22-250


So 11 VT in 22-250 has 1:10 twist? That's interesting because it is an odd twist for that caliber for a Savage. Some are 1:9 like certain LRPVs and some other model but I don't remember seeing any gun with one to ten twist in the catalog. I may be off but I think there is a good chance it will stabilize 68/69 grain pill variety in that case which is cool!

twrecks
07-31-2013, 01:07 PM
Dirt Digger to my knowledge the VT only comes in .223 or .308. Hub, Duncan thanks. I do like the platform and for what I want I think it will work just fine. Does anyone know if there are any aftermarket ten round mags for this series of rifle?

Hubcap91
07-31-2013, 04:30 PM
Dirt Digger to my knowledge the VT only comes in .223 or .308. Hub, Duncan thanks. I do like the platform and for what I want I think it will work just fine. Does anyone know if there are any aftermarket ten round mags for this series of rifle?

I've seen the 11VT in 22-250 a couple times, doesn't seem as readily available as the .223 or .308 though. If you look at my past posts in this thread, I converted the bottom to an all metal setup. The parts and prices from Savage are listed. I also bought a 10 round magazine from www.darkeaglecustom.com (http://www.darkeaglecustom.com) The machining is fantastic and I'm very happy with the purchase. However, to use the magazine you will have to change to an all metal setup as I have done.

Trigger Guard- 107217 $25
Frame Assy- 106705 $78
Magazine- 55105 $50

blaster62
07-31-2013, 05:59 PM
Digger: To stabilize a 69 gr 1.0 long bullet in a 1in 10 you have to go 3000 fps to get a GC of 1.11 if that helps.

twrecks
07-31-2013, 06:05 PM
Hub do you have any pictures of that I would love to see it. Or did I miss them in the posts??

Hubcap91
07-31-2013, 08:11 PM
Hub do you have any pictures of that I would love to see it. Or did I miss them in the posts??

I don't have any but I'll try to take some on my phone.

twrecks
07-31-2013, 09:05 PM
Cool

dirtdigger
08-02-2013, 04:23 AM
Dirt Digger to my knowledge the VT only comes in .223 or .308. Hub, Duncan thanks. I do like the platform and for what I want I think it will work just fine. Does anyone know if there are any aftermarket ten round mags for this series of rifle?

They do come in other calibers other than 223&308. As Hubcap mentioned there are 22-250s out there and as I said in my first post (#106) I purchased one last week in .243 Win. If someone is aware of other chamberings please chime in, I 'm curious as probably are others.

dirtdigger
08-02-2013, 04:30 AM
Digger: To stabilize a 69 gr 1.0 long bullet in a 1in 10 you have to go 3000 fps to get a GC of 1.11 if that helps.

I appreciate the info Blaster! I think it is quite doable with 22-250 then. Do you mind sharing the link to that program/formula for calculation? PM me please to not clog this thread. Thank you!

plinkin
08-02-2013, 09:08 AM
As far as I know the 11VT comes in .223, .22-250, .243 & .308 although no one at the store level can confirm that for me. I would be all about one if there was a .204. If anyone knows for sure and if so can confirm a model number or SKU that would be appreciated.

twrecks
08-03-2013, 12:09 AM
Ok I did it! I went and bought the VT11in .308 yesterday at Dicks. Thanks for the tip on opening the Dicks account I got 10% off too so not bad for $494.00. Now trying to decide on first mod. Harris bipod or single rail scope mount? I am going to start ordering the parts to convert to the metal trigger guard and drop out mags real soon too. Being new here I do appreciate y'alls knowledge and input. I know it's only a 550 dollar rifle but it's still a big purchase for me and I feel like I got the best rifle for my money. Hub I would still like to see your rifle.

twrecks
08-03-2013, 10:14 PM
Watching some youtube videos I came across this Austrailian guy reviewing what I believe was an 110FCP-S. It looked like it had factory detachable mags. I looked on the website and they have a FCP-K and I swore they had a picture of it with a detachable 10 round mag. does anyone know about these and if it's on the same 110 chassis can you do the trigger housing upgrade and just use factory savage mags??

Hubcap91
08-28-2013, 03:06 PM
Sorry it took me so long, I've been out of town for a while. But here she is.
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj594/a_hub10/0828131358_zps1dfff5f5.jpg (http://s1269.photobucket.com/user/a_hub10/media/0828131358_zps1dfff5f5.jpg.html)
Heres the bottom metal.
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj594/a_hub10/0828131358b_zpseaf1a635.jpg (http://s1269.photobucket.com/user/a_hub10/media/0828131358b_zpseaf1a635.jpg.html)
And one with yesterdays purchase. A Mark II FV-SR.
http://i1269.photobucket.com/albums/jj594/a_hub10/0828131359_zpsd4bbb1c3.jpg (http://s1269.photobucket.com/user/a_hub10/media/0828131359_zpsd4bbb1c3.jpg.html)

BoilerUP
08-28-2013, 03:08 PM
Guy at the local gun shop told me today that a couple weeks ago DSG put the 10P-SR on sale for $419....!

dirtdigger
08-29-2013, 03:24 AM
Did you mean 10 FP-SR? I haven't seen P-SR on Savage's site unless I missed it or it is another distributer exclusive out there? If so do you have more info on it?

BoilerUP
08-29-2013, 06:07 AM
Nope, 10P-SR...http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Savage_Arms_10P_308_18_5R_Threaded_Heavy_Barrel_W_ p/gun-22076.htm

Hubcap91
08-29-2013, 10:51 AM
Nope, 10P-SR...http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/Savage_Arms_10P_308_18_5R_Threaded_Heavy_Barrel_W_ p/gun-22076.htm

I've never seen that, but I like it!

twrecks
08-29-2013, 06:49 PM
Hub, That's awesome. hope ya don't mind but I'm copying that one. That's exactly what I'm looking to do.

plinkin
08-29-2013, 10:08 PM
They do come in other calibers other than 223&308. As Hubcap mentioned there are 22-250s out there and as I said in my first post (#106) I purchased one last week in .243 Win. If someone is aware of other chamberings please chime in, I 'm curious as probably are others.
I have personally seen .223, .22-250, .308 and heard about .243. Wish there was a .204

fngmike
08-29-2013, 11:01 PM
You know I have skimmed through all 10 pages of this thread and one thing amazes me. Nobody has mentioned what Dick's did after Newtown and that is pulled all the AR type rifles they were selling from the shelves and also screwed a bunch of their customers who were waiting for IIRC, Daniel Defense rifles.

I have considered them the enemy ever since, along with price gouging and similar acting Cheaper Than Dirt. I really don't care if the rest of the membership here wouldn't boycott them, just curious as to whether or not everybody making these purchases is aware of what they've done?

Sitting Duck
08-30-2013, 12:22 AM
So . . . have they put them back? If so, I guess it was a knee-jerk reaction to what was happening at the time. DSG's firearm sales are a very small portion of what they sell. In the big picture did they over react? It sounds like it. Lesson learned, we hope.

I bought my rifle from DSG because they had the best price on a Savage heavy barreled .308 and I wanted to get in under any stupid-ass laws that were being bandied about at the time. If they start financially supporting the pro-gun control activists then I will not step foot in their doors again. Until then, I will spend my money as frugally as possible.




You know I have skimmed through all 10 pages of this thread and one thing amazes me. Nobody has mentioned what Dick's did after Newtown and that is pulled all the AR type rifles they were selling from the shelves and also screwed a bunch of their customers who were waiting for IIRC, Daniel Defense rifles.

I have considered them the enemy ever since, along with price gouging and similar acting Cheaper Than Dirt. I really don't care if the rest of the membership here wouldn't boycott them, just curious as to whether or not everybody making these purchases is aware of what they've done?

BoilerUP
08-30-2013, 08:28 AM
You know I have skimmed through all 10 pages of this thread and one thing amazes me. Nobody has mentioned what Dick's did after Newtown and that is pulled all the AR type rifles they were selling from the shelves and also screwed a bunch of their customers who were waiting for IIRC, Daniel Defense rifles.

They were Troy not DD...but thats neither here nor there.

plinkin
08-30-2013, 09:50 AM
You know I have skimmed through all 10 pages of this thread and one thing amazes me. Nobody has mentioned what Dick's did after Newtown and that is pulled all the AR type rifles they were selling from the shelves and also screwed a bunch of their customers who were waiting for IIRC, Daniel Defense rifles.

I have considered them the enemy ever since, along with price gouging and similar acting Cheaper Than Dirt. I really don't care if the rest of the membership here wouldn't boycott them, just curious as to whether or not everybody making these purchases is aware of what they've done?

It sounds to me like you are all butt hurt because you think you and other waiting for this IIRC Daniel Defense gun. I am certainly not going to change your mind but Dick's is a sporting goods store that happens to sell guns. When they opened locally here they used to take trades and they used to sell handguns. Now they are basically a sporting goods WalMart that sells guns. They are a big corporation that did a knee jerk reaction to an awful (and somewhat debatable false) situation.

As I mentioned they are a big corporation and because of that they have exclusive guns (just like Gander Mountain, Cabelas and others) from manufacturers. This thread isn't about what Dick's did and how they screwed you or your presumed "price gouging". I am sure if you look other places on the forum you might find a thread or a pot to stir up.

Everyone has felt the "pain" of Newtown one way or another. Had Dick's not pulled the "modern sporting firearms" they would have been out of stock in days if not hours and perhaps even on any other semi automatic rifle they sell. The end result would have been the same.

So sorry you got screwed.

Hubcap91
08-30-2013, 11:57 AM
Hub, That's awesome. hope ya don't mind but I'm copying that one. That's exactly what I'm looking to do.

I'm very happy with the results thus far. I'm doing some more tweaks so don't worry about having the same rifle. ;)

As far as DSG goes, I really didn't care what they had done. The price tag is what made me buy my rifle from them.

fngmike
09-01-2013, 06:59 PM
Bl

So sorry you got screwed.

Thanks for the rant and the concern for my butt. I would guess your own malady stems from PMS maybe?

Sitting Duck: Thanks for the honest answer, understood completely.

BoilerUP: Thanks, yep, memory not so good Troy

Hubcap91: I understand, but I guess my point is if it had been a different tragedy using a boltgun, and DSG pulls evil black sniper rifles?

I'm not trying to stir a pot, just asking about the awareness of DSG in the past, and the commonality of Savages from the same vendor. I hope they're shooting very good for everyone and from what I've read it sounds like they're a deal, much like the 700 SPS Varmints DSG sells. Best to all of you.

DanSavage
09-01-2013, 07:33 PM
You know I have skimmed through all 10 pages of this thread and one thing amazes me. Nobody has mentioned what Dick's did after Newtown and that is pulled all the AR type rifles they were selling from the shelves and also screwed a bunch of their customers who were waiting for IIRC, Daniel Defense rifles.

I have considered them the enemy ever since, along with price gouging and similar acting Cheaper Than Dirt. I really don't care if the rest of the membership here wouldn't boycott them, just curious as to whether or not everybody making these purchases is aware of what they've done?

I won't support Dick's ever again, knee jerk reaction to strip people of a constitutional right.

Their name say's it all...

plinkin
09-01-2013, 10:55 PM
Thanks for the rant and the concern for my butt. I would guess your own malady stems from PMS maybe?

Sitting Duck: Thanks for the honest answer, understood completely.

BoilerUP: Thanks, yep, memory not so good Troy

Hubcap91: I understand, but I guess my point is if it had been a different tragedy using a boltgun, and DSG pulls evil black sniper rifles?

I'm not trying to stir a pot, just asking about the awareness of DSG in the past, and the commonality of Savages from the same vendor. I hope they're shooting very good for everyone and from what I've read it sounds like they're a deal, much like the 700 SPS Varmints DSG sells. Best to all of you.


Well maybe next time they'll send you flowers when you get screwed. ~smirk~

As far as the bolt gun scenerio goes...you do understand that it was rumored and or proven that the idiot went into a DSG before the "shootout", right? This is what prompted DSG to do what they did. I'd bet WalMart would have done the same thing.

plinkin
09-01-2013, 10:58 PM
I won't support Dick's ever again, knee jerk reaction to strip people of a constitutional right.

Their name say's it all...

Well this thread headed straight into the crapper because of one butt hurt person.

Seriously Dan...Dicks didn't strip you, him or anyone of their Constitutional right. They were exercising personal damage control. Our 2nd Amendment doesn't say we have the right to bear modern sporting fire arms or even gun powder powered firearms or even guns. We have the right to bear arms. In some cases that could be a pointed stick.

DanSavage
09-01-2013, 11:56 PM
Sorry guy's I guess I should shut up on that one,,the good thing is that they are selling Savages and we can all agree on one thing,,we all like Savages.LOL.

plinkin
09-02-2013, 02:00 AM
Sorry guy's I guess I should shut up on that one,,the good thing is that they are selling Savages and we can all agree on one thing,,we all like Savages.LOL.

Amen to that Brother

fngmike
09-02-2013, 04:49 PM
Sorry guy's I guess I should shut up on that one,,the good thing is that they are selling Savages and we can all agree on one thing,,we all like Savages.LOL.

I really don't think that you as a paying member need to apologize Dan, not to a non-paying, self-appointed forum nazi IMO. I am glad that some share the same sentiment. It's my right to choose not to support a vendor that is only interested in selling things to me when the political climate is convenient to them. We can all swing together or alone when it comes to our rights IMO. I also realize that others have a right to buy whatever, wherever they want and I haven't been disrespectful to them on a forum like some teen-aged punk.

Plinkin - Why don't you grab a clue and drop your internet tough guy routine? You don't HAVE to respond if you don't like the question I asked. Nor do you have to keep flinging your sideways insults about being screwed and another man's butt. Capt. Obvious, if I didn't even know the people who did get "screwed", in your terminology, by DSG were trying to buy Troy rifles, how am I one of them? Unless you're some kind of non-paying super secret forum moderator I don't know about, how about YOU STFU?

plinkin
09-02-2013, 05:42 PM
I really don't think that you as a paying member need to apologize Dan, not to a non-paying, self-appointed forum nazi IMO. I am glad that some share the same sentiment. It's my right to choose not to support a vendor that is only interested in selling things to me when the political climate is convenient to them. We can all swing together or alone when it comes to our rights IMO. I also realize that others have a right to buy whatever, wherever they want and I haven't been disrespectful to them on a forum like some teen-aged punk.

Plinkin - Why don't you grab a clue and drop your internet tough guy routine? You don't HAVE to respond if you don't like the question I asked. Nor do you have to keep flinging your sideways insults about being screwed and another man's butt. Capt. Obvious, if I didn't even know the people who did get "screwed", in your terminology, by DSG were trying to buy Troy rifles, how am I one of them? Unless you're some kind of non-paying super secret forum moderator I don't know about, how about YOU STFU?

Tough guy routine LOL ROTF, I am just a learner from you. Now if you REALLY want to TALK about it like the MAN I am to the ... whatever you are, I am willing to give you my phone number but I am sure you won't want to hear what I have to say, so shut your vagina.

Texas Solo
09-02-2013, 08:45 PM
Where's the popcorn icon?

BoilerUP
09-02-2013, 09:13 PM
Mods are quick to jump on petty nonsense lately, but let this slide...?

plinkin
09-02-2013, 09:29 PM
Where's the popcorn icon?

There will be no need of the popcorn icon as this thread WILL stay on point.

pdog06
09-02-2013, 10:59 PM
Quite a few of you here need to stop typing, and click on the following link and read for a while.......

http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?104-General-Forum-Rules-amp-Code-of-Conduct

Apache
09-02-2013, 10:59 PM
It's over..........

pdog06
09-02-2013, 11:21 PM
Mods are quick to jump on petty nonsense lately, but let this slide...?

sorry boilerup. you are correct in that this shoulda been closed sooner....my paying job has kept me away from the forum for a couple days......LOL

Apache
09-02-2013, 11:23 PM
And some how I just plain overlooked it.......I guess were just slackin' on the job pdog06!!!!