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wheeledrifleman
01-11-2010, 02:28 AM
Hey everyone,

So here is the deal. I have a deer lease. During the off season I hunt hogs and coyotes with my .270 (it's all I have besides a ruger 10/.22) because I don't like hogs tearing up my land or coyotes bothering my deer...and well I just like hunting them. However, I am getting tired of using deer ammo for smaller animals. I've heard the .22-250 has the stuff to knock them down and go the distance at 300-400 yds. Will a .22-250 really kill a hog or a coyote without it running 300 yds or more post shot, given a good shot.

kkeene
01-11-2010, 07:45 AM
I have shot a lot of 125 to 200 lb hogs. I would stick with the deer rifle for the hogs at that distance. Hogs are tough critters and hard on bullets so use a premium bonded or Partition type deer bullet for those longer shots.

A well placed shot with a 22-250 on the yote should be effective but I have no experience on yotes at that longer distance. I have shot several at 150 yds with a 223 and had no problems. Another 400 fps with the 22-250 over the 223 should allow you to stretch that distance a bit. Remember that a heart / lung shot on a yote is the shoulder, not behind it like on a deer.

Have fun with them varmints!

Keith

Uncle Jack
01-11-2010, 08:09 AM
I don't know what you mean by "deer ammo". The difference per round of .270 ammo versus .224 ammo is just pennys.

The answer to your question is, yes, a well placed 55grn or 60grn .224 bullet at 3500/3600 fps will get the job done.

Read some of P O Ackley's articles about the .220Swift written in the 1940's.

uj

Blue Avenger
01-11-2010, 11:13 AM
I have hit chucks with a .223 Rem, .22-250 Rem & Ackley and a .220 Swift. Guess which one of the 4 dose not require a shovel to move the mess. That 500 fps makes a difference to small bullets.

1Shot
01-11-2010, 01:48 PM
...Just use the .270..lol.. ;)...By the time you buy a new gun & scope setup, think how much .270 ammo you can buy for that price.. :o

ICUDIEN
01-11-2010, 10:19 PM
...Just use the .270..lol.. ;)...By the time you buy a new gun & scope setup, think how much .270 ammo you can buy for that price.. :o


+1

Skunce
01-11-2010, 10:38 PM
You didn't say anything about reloading your own ammo, but that could save you some money and you could tailor your ammo to the particular varmint that your dealing with.

But then on the other hand it's always fun just to buy a new gun. I've been floating the idea to my wife that we need an 338 Edge :D

BrentWin
01-12-2010, 08:43 AM
...Just use the .270..lol.. ;)...By the time you buy a new gun & scope setup, think how much .270 ammo you can buy for that price.. :o


1Shot, that is just the kind of practical thinking that this site was designed to fight. Of course he needs a new gun. Why? Becasue he needs a new gun, enough said.

If he wanted to hear your kind of logic, he would have asked his wife :D

CJ in WY
01-12-2010, 10:18 AM
...Just use the .270..lol.. ;)...By the time you buy a new gun & scope setup, think how much .270 ammo you can buy for that price.. :o


1Shot, that is just the kind of practical thinking that this site was designed to fight. Of course he needs a new gun. Why? Becasue he needs a new gun, enough said.

If he wanted to hear your kind of logic, he would have asked his wife :D


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1Shot
01-12-2010, 10:31 AM
...Just use the .270..lol.. ;)...By the time you buy a new gun & scope setup, think how much .270 ammo you can buy for that price.. :o


If he wanted to hear your kind of logic, he would have asked his wife :D


..Where do you think I heard that from..lol..

Blue Avenger
01-12-2010, 10:47 AM
you need a .22 centerfire to save you a bruised shoulder. the cost of the new rifle is less then the cost of shoulder surgery. long term the light recoil, cheaper ammo, will pay for the rifle. ;) the rifle holds value, so it is a good investment.

it is always easier to ask for forgiveness then permission! You found a good deal on a used one. Looks just like new., don't it! :)

the_right_reverend
01-12-2010, 06:50 PM
Buy the 22-250 if the .224 don't put a big enought hole in the yote....


you can alway have Northland get you a Nice Shilen in .308 barrel

handirifle
01-16-2010, 07:22 PM
I say don't buy......build, a new 22-250. I say that because you need to get one with a 1-9 twist and use heavier bullets, up to the 69gr on most and even some of the 75gr bullets, if you single load. Point is, you can pack a lot more whallop with the heavier bullets and still be easier on the pocket and shoulder.

Use a Barnes 63gr TSX and I doubt even at 300yds you'll ever recover a bullet from pig or yote.

Besides, you ALWAYS need a new gun. ;)

Three44s
01-19-2010, 02:05 AM
If you want to hunt hogs and coyotes with the same rifle, I would NOT go for a .22-250 ..... they are fine coyote meds but when you factor in hogs ....

......... I would go UPSCALE to at least a .243 but better still a .257 Bob

Three 44s

Joe T.
01-21-2010, 11:48 AM
The 22-250 has the stuff. A well placed shot will drop hogs, deer and coyotes. I have a 22-250 and I have seen the results of a 55gr on a lot of deer and hogs. A well placed shot to/through the ear is devastating. The 22-250 is a pleasure to shoot and the 1-9 twist offers a lot of options.

tammons
01-21-2010, 12:04 PM
Okay for deer, but light for hogs.

With a 223 or a 22-250 I use a neck shot for deer. I hate tracking. The last deer
I shot with a 22-250 in the neck, it blew out the top part of his skull.

That said a 22 cal 62 gr barnes bullet should DRT a hog with a good shot.
The barnes bullets are expensive though so now you are back to expensive ammo.

I personally use a 308 or a 338 for hogs. Really tough critters. My neighbor shot a hog a while back with his 270,
thought he missed it. WE found it the next day, only a 100# sow, good shot, and the freekin thing ran about 150 yards and died.

Only gun I have used that would drop them in their tracks on the spot every time was my 338 with barnes bullets or a 375 ruger I use for a while.

I like my cousins approach too. He has an AR15 with an eotech site and buys bulk FMJ cheap ammo and
showers them with lead.

Loads 30 round clips and just unloads on them. Usually dumps the entire mag.
Last story I heard is he got 8 hogs with one mag full.

If you can get close enough you could try a 12 ga with buckshot with the plug out. Farmers hunting at night trying to get rid of hogs have been doing that.

I know of 4 guys that get together, in a jeep, find them at night with night vision optics, slowly creep up on them then they hit the lights and all four guys unload with buckshot. They kill a lot of hogs that way. That or trapping is about the only way to keep them down.

You have to kill 7 out of 10 just to keep the population in check.

Quackaddict
01-22-2010, 02:43 PM
Everything I have read about hogs tells me there tough critters, I would personally go to a 243ish caliber to do what you want. If I was going to kill just hogs, a good accurate 308 would be the ticket I would think. I would personally buy a rifle capable of killing hogs and then you will have plenty of rifle to whack a dog.

ghogslugger
01-24-2010, 02:27 AM
I used a 22-250 for a rifle hunt in texas and when we skinned that deer one of the shoulders was completely destroyed, so we couldn't get any meat of it. The other shoulder had bruised spots too so yea a 22-250 is plenty enough for deer.

gmac75
01-24-2010, 11:35 PM
once took a sow with a 30-30 entered the right rear ribcage destroyed the heart and out through the left front. the sow ran at least 30 yards before stopping. was about 150lbs of pork. ;D

letsshootem
01-25-2010, 08:23 PM
As far as yotes. The 22.250 will do the job very well. If your shooting hogs and you can't shoot him in the ear I think I would pass. I'm not sure as to how hard there skull is, but I can tell you at 250yrds I shot a hog dead in the shoulder with a 3006 and he still went through 200yrds of the thickest stuff you can imagine! I go to SC. to shoot hogs every year. I now take my 270wsm and still want take a shot unless I can shoot him in the ear. A hogs vitals are futher forward than on a deer. If you shoot behind the shoulder like on a deer you will miss his vitals. Breaking that shoulder plate is hard to do. Well that's what I think. I would be scared to try to take one even with a ear shot with a 22-250. They are tough as hell!