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acemisser
11-29-2012, 01:01 PM
I have gotten into cleaning the inside necks of my 308 brass for comp.Shooting..

I am using a brass bore brush with some 0000 steel wool wraped around the brush
and run it in a small battery operated drill...My question,is do you think this will
harm the brass,by taking out a bit of brass each time I clean them...

I have been doing some accuracy testing-and I think it helps to keep a more constent
bullet release upon fireing..And it also makes the cases size a lot easier as well,without
all the crud in there...Any thoughts on this? I know it just adds another step in brass
preperation...I suppose the only way to really tell is to get a new battery for my
chrony and take some readings...

bigedp51
11-29-2012, 01:20 PM
At AccurateShooter.com many of the competitive shooters don't even like tumbling their brass using stainless steel pin media because it removes the carbon buildup inside the neck. From what I have read about it, the scrubbed brass causes uneven neck tension with the bullets. Some believe a metal to metal bonding is taking place between the bullet and case neck that increases over time. There is always a big debate over what case cleaning method is best to use with many leaving the insides of the neck alone.

davemuzz
11-29-2012, 02:25 PM
Interesting. I just take two swipes (once in, once out) with a nylon brush on my 6.5 Swede cases. Heck.....I don't even do that on my .223's 'cause when I look at the pile I have to reload of them......I just roll my eyes and say "nah....that ain't happining"!!! My .223's are actually the most accurate loads I have. What does that tell you?

acemisser
11-29-2012, 06:25 PM
so maybe it is a waste of time then? I didn't think about the metal to metal contact..

Interesting....And to be honest about it...I HATE case prep..I think it is the worst
part of the reloading process...Glad I read the post..So as of not I will say
to hell with it..lmbfbso

acemisser
11-29-2012, 06:26 PM
Interesting. I just take two swipes (once in, once out) with a nylon brush on my 6.5 Swede cases. Heck.....I don't even do that on my .223's 'cause when I look at the pile I have to reload of them......I just roll my eyes and say "nah....that ain't happining"!!! My .223's are actually the most accurate loads I have. What does that tell you?

I gotta tell you Dave-you are one ugly looking sum-*****

fgw_in_fla
11-29-2012, 09:18 PM
Read this...

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3785592.0

Another one of the many, many things I learned about accuracy loading & shooting the hard way.

Take a round that you made a few days ago that's been sitting in the box. Set up the proper die & reseat the bullet another .005". if you hear a "POP" sound when you apply pressure to the press handle, it's not your elbow popping.

if you leave the inside of the neck a little dirty, you'll be better off. That doesn't mean a layer of soot....
A sooty stain can be a good thing.
Have fun.
Frank in FLa

bigedp51
11-29-2012, 09:24 PM
I gotta tell you Dave-you are one ugly looking sum-*****

I guess no one told you he has a twin brother just as fugly.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/Muttstwins.jpg

Before Dave got into reloading, Dave did medical experiments on chickens for Perdue injecting them with hormones.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/DrX.jpg

I wouldn't trust his reloads, he lubes his cases with chicken fat, and he's always playing pocket pool.

fgw_in_fla
11-29-2012, 09:32 PM
GOOD LORD!!!
That is one UUUUGGLLYYYY / Fugly pair of dudes.

Hey..... wait a minute..... That's my brother in law!

davemuzz
11-29-2012, 09:49 PM
I gotta tell you Dave-you are one ugly looking sum-*****

I may not be the prettiest...and I may have one ugly brother.....but at least I'm an honest worker!!! (And I am running a "special" on chicken broth!!)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/davemuzz/WORK-AMMO-b.jpg

bigedp51
11-29-2012, 11:44 PM
I may not be the prettiest...and I may have one ugly brother.....but at least I'm an honest worker!!! (And I am running a "special" on chicken broth!!)

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a212/davemuzz/WORK-AMMO-b.jpg

Now I know for sure you got the fugly twin photos from "ME" I made the above photo and posted it at Gunboards years ago. So just remember this, I made both photos to get even with the Australian Dr.X AKA Dr. Beers for what he posted. (see below)

P.S. Your still ugly.................................... BUT get your own material.

Below the Australian Dr.X AKA Dr. Beers giving me Enfield shooting "pointers".

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/paul.jpg

BillPa
11-30-2012, 12:12 AM
Its called cold welding , and it is REAL

If anyone wants to see a recent example, look at my targets on HuntingPa.
http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=225877&Number=2812810#Post2812810

Bill

acemisser
11-30-2012, 08:57 AM
laughing my ass off this morning...Thanks John

davemuzz
11-30-2012, 08:59 AM
Thanks BigEd!! You do nice work!!

JW
11-30-2012, 07:36 PM
you guys are killin me! LOL

bigedp51
12-01-2012, 01:57 AM
Dave here is the original photo that an Australian posted in our Gunboards Enfield forum. The joke was on me because many of the Australians knew my real last name and the poster said these were my Australian cousins from Tasmania. The Australian humor here is Tasmania was the first penal colony in Australia with a small gene pool and inbreeding.

I told the Australians the only reason I wasn't an Australian was because my ancestors were faster runners than theirs. I told the Australians my ancestors came to the American colonies after the oldest of three brother fell and broke his neck at a public gathering in England. This disagreement over a horses ownership caused the two surviving brothers to book immediate passage on a ship to the American colonies.

As you can see below Dave the oldest brother was a sloppy drunk much like yourself.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/uglytwins.jpg

I got even with the Australians outrageous verbal slander by posting a photo of my American bayonet practice koala bear target.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/payback.jpg

Luckus
12-01-2012, 10:24 AM
I read an article somewhere in he past that David Tubb seats his bullets long, and just before a match he seats them to spec, to negate the welding effect. I belive their is something to this. I always run a brass or nylon brush into the case necks because I thought it was easier on the die. With the Forster sizing die for my 6 Dasher I don't use the expander ball, so this spring I am going to experiment cleaned versus not cleaned. Luckus

acemisser
12-01-2012, 05:06 PM
I read an article somewhere in he past that David Tubb seats his bullets long, and just before a match he seats them to spec, to negate the welding effect. I belive their is something to this. I always run a brass or nylon brush into the case necks because I thought it was easier on the die. With the Forster sizing die for my 6 Dasher I don't use the expander ball, so this spring I am going to experiment cleaned versus not cleaned. Luckus Thanks for the info..sounds interesting

davemuzz
12-01-2012, 07:19 PM
Dave here is the original photo that an Australian posted in our Gunboards Enfield forum. The joke was on me because many of the Australians knew my real last name and the poster said these were my Australian cousins from Tasmania. The Australian humor here is Tasmania was the first penal colony in Australia with a small gene pool and inbreeding.

I told the Australians the only reason I wasn't an Australian was because my ancestors were faster runners than theirs. I told the Australians my ancestors came to the American colonies after the oldest of three brother fell and broke his neck at a public gathering in England. This disagreement over a horses ownership caused the two surviving brothers to book immediate passage on a ship to the American colonies.

As you can see below Dave the oldest brother was a sloppy drunk much like yourself.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/uglytwins.jpg

Hey now!! Just hold on a second!!! I may be a drunk.....But....Sloppy???,....Them is fightin words!!!



I got even with the Australians outrageous verbal slander by posting a photo of my American bayonet practice koala bear target.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/bigedp51/payback.jpg

Tell 'em don't get all worked up. It's just a "cleansing" procedure.

wbm
12-02-2012, 06:51 PM
Is that an Enfield?

lal357
12-02-2012, 08:44 PM
i sonic clean mine them run them though a walnut tumbers for 1-3 hours (depends on how interested i am in prepping brass. dont know if it helps them much but they are sure puuurrty