rock creek pre fits

[helotaxi]

The floating bolt head and some of the other design features of the Savage that were conceived with ease of manufacture in mind and that lend themselves to the home "gunsmith" also lend themselves to an accurate rifle without the need to have a real gunsmith go over the entire action with a lathe and mill to get a proper baseline for the action to perform well. The ability to just swap out bolts on the Savage without having to fit it to the receiver and the chamber is another bonus. Finally, the bolt-together, modular design of the bolt makes going the custom route there with a fluted body or custom bolt handle a simple plug-and-play operation without having to get out the torch, refit everything when you're done and end up stuck with whatever you come out with.

The Savage action design is really pretty impressive from a manufacturing standpoint. With the Savage, the parts are made individually by specialists; a machinist makes the action, a barrelsmith makes the barrels and so on, but the final assembly is just that: assembly. With something like a Remington, Winchester, Browning, Ruger, etc... the final assembly has to be accomplished by a gunsmith since all the individual parts have to be hand-fit to create the final product. If the goal was to make the best rifle out-of-the-box, the smith doing all the fitting would be a bonus and that's how the custom rifle builders go about it, but the goal of a mass produced rifle is a functional, safe firearm and little more. The fit is within tolerance. Good enough. They don't take the time to square up the receiver, grind the recoil lug, true the bolt face, lap the bolt to the action and so on like a custom rifle builer would. As such, having a 'smith spend his time and machine time hand fitting all the parts together to result in a merely functional rifle is largely wasted. Savage spends their machine and skilled labor on other things like making a very good barrel for a factory rifle. The function is built into the design and the rifle is less expensive to manufacture as well.

[Russell D]

Hi, My name is Russell Dorn, I am an employee at Rock Creek Barrels. We are working on getting everything worked out for setting up the sale of prefits. I will have more info later

Thank You,
Russell

[tomme boy]

I have emailed you guys 3 times about getting one of these. You have never got back to me. Would be nice if we could have some info.

[Russell D]

I have emailed you guys 3 times about getting one of these. You have never got back to me. Would be nice if we could have some info.

Sorry for the lack of any reply, do you happen to remember what email you used? Also how long ago did you email?

I have kind of taken reins of the savage stuff in the past few months and I haven't been told of anyone inquiring about anything...

[glassbeaver]

Tag

[rdog52]

I inquired back in October when I first heard that Rock Creek might be offering Savage pre-fits. I got a quick, informative, and helpful reply from Mike Rock. I'm looking forward to working with them for my next build.
Randy

[Russell D]

I inquired back in October when I first heard that Rock Creek might be offering Savage pre-fits. I got a quick, informative, and helpful reply from Mike Rock. I'm looking forward to working with them for my next build.
Randy

Well come first of the year we will be advertising here and I will be posting what barrels we have on hand ready to ship. I am currently researching what barrels we should produce the most and am working on building up an inventory.

[Russell D]

Alot of people are asuming the rock creek prefits are there awsome cut rifled barrels. the prefits are button rifled.

I would like to say this is not true! While we do make quite a few button barrels, they are almost always used for production rifles. While we have sold button barrels that were sold for rebarreling rifles, everyone who received one was informed what they were getting. And by no means are button barrels worse than a cut rifled barrel, I have one of out button 6.5's on my remington 700 chambered in 6.5x47 lapua, it is one of my most accurate rifles, if not the most accurate! I'm not going to say that your barrel isn't buttoned because I cannot comment on what may have happened before I started working there.

I can assure you now that the only button barrels we make are sent to manufactures to be used on production rifles.

[geargrinder]

I can assure you now that the only button barrels we make are sent to manufactures to be used on production rifles.

Except for the ones that were sold in the group buy on SH this spring?

[helotaxi]

He said "make" not "made" in his defense.

[AvgJoe]

Russell,
I would like to personally thank you for coming onto our board and helping to bring this new service into being. It is refreshing to see a company with the reputation of Rock Creek as a new source of excellent custom barrels for Savage actions. Please let us know if we can be of any service in helping you in your program development.

Gentlemen,
It seems that Rock Creek will soon be a vendor here on the site according to the post from RussellD above. I urge you to please be positive and helpful, as this will likely bring the products as soon as possible in the configurations we would most like to see, rather than focusing on past "issues".

Sincerely,
Mike Linn

[jsthntn247]

If you can make a cut rifled, hand lapped pre-fit in the $400 range, you will do well.

[geargrinder]

Russell,
I would like to personally thank you for coming onto our board and helping to bring this new service into being. It is refreshing to see a company with the reputation of Rock Creek as a new source of excellent custom barrels for Savage actions. Please let us know if we can be of any service in helping you in your program development.

Gentlemen,
It seems that Rock Creek will soon be a vendor here on the site according to the post from RussellD above. I urge you to please be positive and helpful, as this will likely bring the products as soon as possible in the configurations we would most like to see, rather than focusing on past "issues".

Sincerely,
Mike Linn

I wan't knocking Russell or Rock Creek. I was just pointing out that there are a bunch of Rock button rifled barrels on custom builds from a group buy they hosted on SH.

I haven't seen anything to indicate the Rock Creek was going to be a vendor here. All I see is Russell, an employee of Rock Creek, giving some appreciated update information.

I've also noticed that he's been participating in several threads. Seems like a good guy.

[Dinosdeuce]

Well come first of the year we will be advertising here and I will be posting what barrels we have on hand ready to ship. I am currently researching what barrels we should produce the most and am working on building up an inventory.

A varmit contour, 8 twist chambered in 6XC throated for the 107 SMK or 115 DTAC.

[Russell D]

Except for the ones that were sold in the group buy on SH this spring?

I cannot comment on that because I was not aware there was a run of savage barrels in the spring. I know we did some about a year and a half ago and those were button barrels. I have a 22 caliber one from that run that isn't yet chambered. But Rock Creek is no longer making button barrels for individual sales. I still have access to button barrels that are as good or better than some of the cut rifled barrels I have on my personal rifles.

[Russell D]

If you can make a cut rifled, hand lapped pre-fit in the $400 range, you will do well.

Good to hear!

They will be in that range and they will be hand lapped by our experienced lappers and chambered and crowned by hand on a gunsmith lathe

[Russell D]

A varmit contour, 8 twist chambered in 6XC throated for the 107 SMK or 115 DTAC.

I know I've seen a 6XC reamer, but I don't know if that was a rental or one we own. And I am unsure of what size throat size it has. I will be there on Wednesday and can take a look.

[savage308]

Interested in a 6 dasher with a 268 neck throated for bergers 105 hybrids.Thanks

[geargrinder]

I cannot comment on that because I was not aware there was a run of savage barrels in the spring. I know we did some about a year and a half ago and those were button barrels. I have a 22 caliber one from that run that isn't yet chambered. But Rock Creek is no longer making button barrels for individual sales. I still have access to button barrels that are as good or better than some of the cut rifled barrels I have on my personal rifles.

Sorry, it wasn't Savage barrels. It was button rifled blanks.

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3076159&page=all

I've been kicking myself for not getting one to go with my Stiller that had a group buy that was going at the same time.

[Dinosdeuce]

Thanks Russell D

Dino