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acemisser
09-17-2012, 05:18 PM
Tried some sierra 52 grainer in my 22-250 today at 200 yards..Used
two powders H 380 and Re-15 The RE-15 looked the best,but I do not
think this is a good choice for this caliber..Think I will put they in the
closet and use the 55 grain and up...
What I am trying to do is find a good load using a lighter bullet to help
keep barrel heat down some...John

jon8777
09-18-2012, 09:29 PM
4320 with nosler 55bt, the best accuracy load was a light load of 4320 with sierra 55 hpbt. The Sierra bullet had a bc of .175or.185 and a low fps giving my .223 the edge on bullet drop and wind drift, but at 100 yards the 22-250 would shoot 5 shots at 3/16" ctc all day every day.

darkker
09-19-2012, 08:03 PM
I don't think the heat will change much with small bullet weight differences as supposed.
The heat mainly comes from 2 sources
1) Amount of powder in the bore
2) Twist/Duration of bullet because of it.

A serious problem you MAY be running into with groups on the lighter stuff is over-rotation induced wobble.
I have a listing of many popular 22-cal bullet RPM limits posted on Shootersforum:
http://www.shootersforum.com/ballistics-internal-external/78073-f-y-i-varmint-bullet-rpm-limits.html

devildogandboy
09-19-2012, 09:01 PM
ace, look at this chart and see if it can help you. i use it as a starting point to get me fairly close.
http://www.savage-barrels.com/calibers.htm

acemisser
09-19-2012, 09:28 PM
Got so many of these little pils I need to shoot a bunch of them up

devildogandboy
09-19-2012, 10:11 PM
Got so many of these little pils I need to shoot a bunch of them up

change the barrel to different twist or sell the 52 grnr's. i might be interested in some.

darkker
09-20-2012, 10:27 AM
Well, If you "need to shoot a bunch of them" and you are concerned with barrel heat & groupings; just slow them down.

Start at the Starting load for that powder. Wobble will be gone, heat will be greatly reduced, and IME the groups are quite good.

82boy
09-20-2012, 11:24 AM
52 gr bullets work great in most barrels. The problem is your are using the wrong powder. I have never got h380 to shoot worth a crap, (It is a ball powder, and needs magnum primers to light it, but even with all of that it still dont shoot worth a crap.) and RE15 is a bit too slow. Try 4895, and you may see something.

acemisser
09-20-2012, 05:56 PM
52 gr bullets work great in most barrels. The problem is your are using the wrong powder. I have never got h380 to shoot worth a crap, (It is a ball powder, and needs magnum primers to light it, but even with all of that it still dont shoot worth a crap.) and RE15 is a bit too slow. Try 4895, and you may see something.

Aint got no H4895....maybe tomorrow I can get a lb to try.Thanks

fgw_in_fla
09-20-2012, 06:31 PM
I thought I was the only one that thought H380 sucked.....

I have a full can - minus 10 bullets worth at 41gr - that I would gladly give to anyone just to make room in the powder cabinet.

I bought it on a whim looking for a powder between 4064 & 4350 for my 7mm.

It turns out that the barrel likes 4895 anyway. I swear it's just like a woman sometimes.....

Frank in Fla

acemisser
09-21-2012, 12:32 PM
Good one Frank..lmao

fgw_in_fla
09-21-2012, 04:45 PM
Sometimes they're like an ex-wife....

nothing you can do to make them happy.

Frank in Fla

308law
09-23-2012, 10:30 AM
I have used 40 grn bullets out of my VLP with 4198 with good success. I have also shot the 45 grn Sierra successfuly.

acemisser
09-23-2012, 04:48 PM
I have used 40 grn bullets out of my VLP with 4198 with good success. I have also shot the 45 grn Sierra successfuly.

is that with a 1 in 9 twist barrel ?

308law
09-23-2012, 06:50 PM
ya it's a 1 in 9 twist barrel, I've even used bullets designed for the hornet in that twist with good success out to 200yrds or so

308law
09-23-2012, 06:53 PM
I did have some 55 grn Hornady soft points that would keyhole, but shot fine in a 1 in 7 twist AR-15, you can never tell, try the 52's you won't know until you try

375Win
09-24-2012, 10:15 AM
I've got a 1-9 Savage barrel that just dodes on 40gr NBT's, I run them at 3900+ out of my 22" barreled 22-204. It is the best pelt hunting bullet I've found so far.

darkker
09-24-2012, 02:56 PM
I've got a 1-9 Savage barrel that just dodes on 40gr NBT's, I run them at 3900+ out of my 22" barreled 22-204. It is the best pelt hunting bullet I've found so far.

22-204? That is called a 222 Magnum.

helotaxi
09-24-2012, 10:30 PM
The twist isn't an issue. Your load might be. The 52gn SMK is a great little bullet and shoots extremely well in every rifle I own both in 1:9 and 1:7. Can't recommend a load for the 22-250 because I don't have one, but the little SMKs are great bullets. Sierra recommends RL-15 and I've found that their recommendations on powder are a good place to start.

If you're getting bullet wobble, check the runout of your loaded rounds. The bullet is probably entering the rifling slightly sideways.

helotaxi
09-24-2012, 10:32 PM
22-204? That is called a 222 Magnum.

Not really. Different shoulder angle on the .204 Ruger than the .222 Mag and the .204 has the neck shortened quite a bit.