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hank440
05-11-2012, 02:25 PM
Gentleman

Your mission should you accept it, is to help me design a lightweight tactical style savage rifle.

specs

it should be under 10lbs with scope and 10 round DBM

The barrel should be not more than 20" and of a contour that it won't heat up and change POI
after the firing of 10 rounds in rapid fire.

go to it

Hank ;D

stangfish
05-11-2012, 02:28 PM
money is of no object?

hank440
05-11-2012, 02:42 PM
YES money is a hard to come by object, that I work many long hours for :o

CAPTBEACH
05-11-2012, 03:45 PM
OK...I'll bite...

Savage 10 or 110, preferably an OLDER 1990's 110FP with a three screw trigger. But a newer SA 10 with accutrigger would save a few oz too.

Savage/Shilen/CBI/Rock 20" Heavy barrel sent away for Spiral Fluting or heavily fluted along its longitudinal axis...if $$$ isnt an object a ABS Carbon Wrapped barrel $900

McMillan Game Scout stock using the Edge Technology option ($91.00) this gets you a graphite cloth stock, lighter weight fill material and aluminum pillars. I understand they are just shy of 30oz, that's UNDER two pounds for the stock.

Bed the stock might add 2 oz but worth it.

EGW 20MOA Picatinny rail and Burris Extreme 6 screw rings add 6oz

CDI DBM with a 5 round is 9oz, add maybe 3 more oz for a 10rounder. Also factor in your removing an oz or two of material when you inlet it for DBM.

SWFA's NEW 20x42 MIL/MIL scope for $299 at 21oz or Leupold MKIV ER/T 6.5x20x50 at $1599 and 22oz.

Dont add a bipod, get a dedicated shooters bag like this TIB http://www.onesourcetactical.com/terroristinterdictionbagtib.aspx#.T61r4cXJA2wto support the rifle. Also acts as a rest to prop your rifle on to...

This is my next build...trying to get a 110BA or 110FCP 338LM action to build on...mine will be in 300WM with a 24-26" tube...

Capt Beach

hank440
05-11-2012, 08:15 PM
I think a heavily fluted barrel is an unnecessary expense, you would be better off just going with a lighter contour like a heavy sporter with no fluting. It would be plenty stiff at only 20".

The Edge technology on the Game scout I feel is wasted also as the stock M40 stock is only 32 oz but use it on the m40 stock and cut another 6 to 8 oz.

EGW rail is fine but leupold 4 screw aluminum rings will do the job and be lighter than the burris rings.

CDI is fine no problems there

really a 20x fixed scope ??? why not the 10x model ? same price, same weight faster on target and more forgiving eye relief.

cgeorgemo
05-11-2012, 09:10 PM
10 FCP-SR have the barrel cut and crowned then add a scope and rings....

hank440
05-11-2012, 09:42 PM
DUH Why didn't I think of that :o except for the crappy stock which will have to be changed out for a better one

nsaqam
05-11-2012, 11:35 PM
I can't imagine the Game Scout EDGE weighs 30 ounces.

Most EDGE stocks weigh 22-24 ounces.

cgeorgemo
05-11-2012, 11:45 PM
DUH Why didn't I think of that :o except for the crappy stock which will have to be changed out for a better one

Just noticed that the barrel is fluted. I'd probably re-barrel it and sell the takeoff barrel.

CAPTBEACH
05-12-2012, 10:22 PM
I can't imagine the Game Scout EDGE weighs 30 ounces.

Most EDGE stocks weigh 22-24 ounces.


You might be right...30oz might be standard Game Scout

Aircraftmech76
05-13-2012, 08:58 PM
DUH Why didn't I think of that :o except for the crappy stock which will have to be changed out for a better one

Just noticed that the barrel is fluted. I'd probably re-barrel it and sell the takeoff barrel.


Put me first in line if you want to sell that barrel! I'd be happy with either 223 or 308.

Kevin

snowpro440
05-13-2012, 09:14 PM
I can help you out , I just pulled 2 barrels , one is a 223 small shank sporter and the other is a 308 small shank heavy barrel .Both are for sale Pm if interested

Aircraftmech76
05-13-2012, 09:37 PM
I can help you out , I just pulled 2 barrels , one is a 223 small shank sporter and the other is a 308 small shank heavy barrel .Both are for sale Pm if interested


Thanks, but I'm looking for a medium contour, threaded barrel.

Kevin

cgeorgemo
05-14-2012, 02:09 AM
I can help you out , I just pulled 2 barrels , one is a 223 small shank sporter and the other is a 308 small shank heavy barrel .Both are for sale Pm if interested

Become a paid member and post them in the classified section you'll most likely sell them quick. I've bought 8 barrels from members off the for sale section.

snowpro440
05-14-2012, 07:06 AM
I can help you out , I just pulled 2 barrels , one is a 223 small shank sporter and the other is a 308 small shank heavy barrel .Both are for sale Pm if interested


Thanks, but I'm looking for a medium contour, threaded barrel.

Kevin
. ....... I just pulled the 308 barrel from a 10 FP

tacticalj
05-15-2012, 08:23 AM
lightweight and tactical don't generally end up in the same sentence! Most "tactical" type stocks are heavy, so that can be a hard part in and of itself. I guess when money is no object then it's possible. Just buy a factory LR rifle and you can shoot out to 1100+ yards....I saw it on TV! Problem solved and it's probably as light as it's going to get. Otherwise your putting a heavy barrel on, a heavy stock, and don't forget optics! Maybe the new 40mm tube scope that IOR (I think it is) is making!

hank440
05-15-2012, 02:28 PM
yes I know I'm just trying some practical ways to reduce the weight. My light rifle is 15lbs and my heavy one is 19lbs. I would like to be closer to 10 lbs. ::)

stangfish
05-15-2012, 08:16 PM
http://www.xlrindustries.com/evolution.html

hank440
05-17-2012, 02:40 PM
XLR at 3lbs 13 oz it weights the same as my Choate tactical and costs 3x as much :o :P :o

stangfish
05-17-2012, 03:04 PM
XLR at 3lbs 13 oz it weights the same as my Choate tactical and costs 3x as much :o :P :o


While cool, the Choate is not even in the same league as the XLR. ;D

TacticalJ is on the money. Light and tactical are not synonymous. But scout rifle might be what you are after.