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geargrinder
11-26-2009, 05:34 PM
Gauges may be safer, brass may be more accurate but niether are foolproof!



Well put CJ.

markr, I was just funnin' too. I should have just said that I resemble that remark. :D

Hillbilly- yes. Engineer- yes. College boy- no. My state let me take the exam base on work history, not a degree.

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markr
11-26-2009, 07:53 PM
Both of you guys are nuts! ;D

1Shot
11-26-2009, 07:57 PM
...I mustn be a hillbillys 2...I onlys usen the brass..lol.. ;D

MikeCTX
11-26-2009, 08:22 PM
This has been pretty funny...of course no one has pointed out that some folks should use neither, and just take everything to a smith ;D

btw - not sure which group I fall into yet, but will find out soon lol

Three44s
11-26-2009, 11:00 PM
............ and some folks could use both!

Three 44s

CJ in WY
11-26-2009, 11:31 PM
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I guess I couldov used a little more schouling myself as it took three trys to get college spelled close enough so spell check had a clue what it was http://www.texashuntingforum.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/scared.gif

ellobo
11-27-2009, 02:04 AM
I assume from what SJinWY had to say about cats reflects on his disdain for the breed. So, I ask this question: If you had to learn how to hunt by watching animals, like Native Americans did, would you watch a dog or a cat? I watch cats becasue running after game howling my brains out doesn't appeal to me.
PS: I do like dogs as well.

El Lobo

CJ in WY
11-27-2009, 03:22 AM
Cats are actually quite cool and your right they are great hunters...Maybe its the litter box that bothers me. I hunt like a dog most of the time though ;D

rattletrap1970
11-27-2009, 08:43 AM
I'm not entirely sure where the thought that I was trying to save money by not purchasing a headspace gauge came from. I assure you it is not a money issue. I am also not a hillbilly. I am a respectful member of this board with over 2 decades of reloading experience. I simply never removed a rifle barrel before, never had to.

I was attempting to reassemble the rifle as close to it's original headspacing prior to taking it apart. Since the rifle shot fairly well prior to the work I did, it was my belief that the best way to return it to that state would be to use a cartridge that was fired in the rifle before dis-assembly.

I do plan on picking up a go and no-go gauge just to have them around.

CJ in WY
11-27-2009, 09:02 AM
Rattletrap1970
Sorry for sorta hijacking your thread, we're digging on each other more than you!
My best advice would be to set the barrel with a resized case and double check with a no-go gauge. If you set it with a fired case I think you will find the bolt will close on the no-go gauge. If you dont get the barrel exactly back where it was your point of impact may change but group size will not.

fatdaddy
11-27-2009, 09:36 AM
I've noticed over the years that putting a college boy and a hill-billy on a project is about as fun as puttin a couple of pocket gophers in a five gallon pail :o The difference is neither gopher winns ;)
A cat on the other hand is better skinned after it has had its breathing privileges revoked ;D
As for setting the headspace on a Savage/Stevens?? Gauges may be safer, brass may be more accurate but niether are foolproof!
IMHO College boys have a limited perpose, gophers are fun, the best cats are stiff as a board and Scotch tape is my friend

+1

BobT
11-27-2009, 10:47 AM
I use the sticky part of a post-it-note for my no-go gauge on hunting rifles, on the paper shooters I use a single layer of scotch tape. Then I get someone else to shoot it first ;D ;D ;D

This is a great thread but seriously I do know a pretty well known gunsmith who has set the headspace on hunting rifles by using a loaded factory round as a go gauge.

Bob

Apache
11-27-2009, 11:29 AM
Rattletrap1970,

This go-no go gauge thing is a classic battle around here. ;)



You're going to be OK just the way you have done it.....CJ is right about the no go also.

When I did my first barrel change I used a set of gauges........then used brass, just to check the difference. Once I learned what was really going on, as in, the "why's and wherefores" of head spacing, I now use brass exclusively.


In all seriousness---IMHO ;) for what it's worth-----the only time I would REALLY need a set of gauges any more would be if I ever decided to sell the rifle. THEN I would set it using gauges for legal reasons. But, that's never gonna happen while I'm alive!!!! ;D