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scnewt
01-30-2012, 09:24 PM
I think that it's chancey and now that the paint has messed up I will need to buy more anyway. I might as well get a spray gun since this just went from a $40 job to a $80 job because of a double order of paint. Spray guns are just better and I don't want to risk it again.

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maddogg316
01-30-2012, 09:40 PM
You might have gotten bloss black instead of matte!
typically gloss based paints tend to get runs more then the flat based paint products

scnewt
01-31-2012, 04:37 AM
Could be true, it has allot more shine than the savage actions I duracoated in the past. Maybe its due to mismarking at the factory or the fact that I really cleaned these parts good before painting. I mean I took the finish down to bare metal and used brake parts cleaner to remove any lube or residue.

maddogg316
01-31-2012, 07:04 AM
That could be part of it as well. if you had nice shiny parts the paint might not have had much to stick to.
did you rough up the surfaces with some scotch bright first?

snowgetter1
01-31-2012, 09:25 AM
I use Duracoat all the time but use an airbrush. I am not familiar with the spray kits but, mixing the paint and hardner can change the gloss effect of flat paint. The tactical colors are the flattest colors but even if the directions are not followed and to much hardner is added it will shine.

ARCOREY
01-31-2012, 05:44 PM
Could be true, it has allot more shine than the savage actions I duracoated in the past. Maybe its due to mismarking at the factory or the fact that I really cleaned these parts good before painting. I mean I took the finish down to bare metal and used brake parts cleaner to remove any lube or residue.



Too much hardener will do this too. I bought a matte clear and went over my muzzleloader that I sprayed in their French Army pattern with the SL version of their paints and dulled it right back where I wanted it. The SL is supposed to be more durable and self lubricating and not burnish as bad, but it does have more sheen than the original. I use the tactical colors when possible for flatter finishes now.

rinodods
02-01-2012, 12:03 AM
I have heard that a paint stripper rated for epoxy paints will take off duracoat. I haven't had a chance to try. If you aren't worried about the finish underneath it might be worth a shot instead of trying to sand it all down.

scnewt
02-03-2012, 07:19 AM
I sanded the surface but I think next time I will use something courser than 220 grit. You all have been very informative and I know what to do next time. I will repainting one of the frames and the slides off of the pistols and repainting the bolt handle because it does not match the duracoat that was already on the rifle it goes to. I think that it will be possible to get the finish sanded off because it is not fully hardened yet (takes a month) and I don't believe it would hurt to leave a little of the old duracoat on before the new stuff goes on.

Thanks!

scott597
02-04-2012, 11:41 AM
the last 2 guns i painted with dura coat i used a small touch-up hvlp spray gun i got at menards for like $25. worked so much better than the airbrush! didn't have to stop every 4 minutes to refill the jar with paint. it's also more adjustable. just practice a little bit with the adjustments on some scrap pieces to get the hang of it. also i found a little less hardner and a fine spray pattern gives a good flat finish with the matte colors.

stangfish
02-04-2012, 12:06 PM
the last 2 guns i painted with dura coat i used a small touch-up hvlp spray gun i got at menards for like $25. worked so much better than the airbrush! didn't have to stop every 4 minutes to refill the jar with paint. it's also more adjustable. just practice a little bit with the adjustments on some scrap pieces to get the hang of it. also i found a little less hardner and a fine spray pattern gives a good flat finish with the matte colors.


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